Anyone else got a real bad feeling about the ISIL bombings?

Anyone else got a real bad feeling about the ISIL bombings?

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TheExcession

11,669 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Here's a thought...

Get them all round a table.

Proffer the option, "Hey lads, let's just stop all this, you know, it's been going on for at bit too long now. Let's just stop it now. Working together we really could get on very well and feed all our children and we'll all prosper."

But no...

"My GOD says your GOD is a dirty pig"

BLAM
BLAM
BOOM
BIG BOOM
BIGGER BOOM


This is the fking idiocy, and it doesn't matter how many bombs are dropped at xyz. the hatred will not stop.

These people want a law that is the word and law of THEIR God, not the law of man. The law of their God is enshrined in Islamic teaching. There are no other rules allowed.

Christianity is fking just as hopeless at maintaining its laws. "Though shalt not shag thy neighbour's wife" - how many times does this go unpunished (by death)?

Just like in the Terminator films, this whole cluster fk will not stop.

It's the children I feel sorry for. The adults should get a fking grip and fking well cop on to the fact that we have a pleasant life supporting planet here, decent technology and medicines, we could all be working together, but no, 'my God says that your God is wrong so I must kill you'.

It's fkING INSANE, there should be no debate, it is JUST fkING INSANE. If Little Ex came to me and said 'According to my book God says I can poke your eye out because last night you sent me to bed for been naughty and you slapped my arse for having a tantrum after I'd thrown the dinner you cooked for me back at you because it had pork in it...'

Seriously, would anyone this side of the real world tolerate that?

I despair, I really do.



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lord trumpton

Original Poster:

7,320 posts

125 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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TheExcession said:
Here's a thought...

Get them all round a table.

Proffer the option, "Hey lads, let's just stop all this, you know, it's been going on for at bit too long now. Let's just stop it now. Working together we really could get on very well and feed all our children and we'll all prosper."

But no...

"My GOD says your GOD is a dirty pig"

BLAM
BLAM
BOOM
BIG BOOM
BIGGER BOOM


This is the fking idiocy, and it doesn't matter how many bombs are dropped at xyz. the hatred will not stop.

These people want a law that is the word and law of THEIR God, not the law of man. The law of their God is enshrined in Islamic teaching. There are no other rules allowed.

Christianity is fking just as hopeless at maintaining its laws. "Though shalt not shag thy neighbour's wife" - how many times does this go unpunished (by death)?

Just like in the Terminator films, this whole cluster fk will not stop.

It's the children I feel sorry for. The adults should get a fking grip and fking well cop on to the fact that we have a pleasant life supporting planet here, decent technology and medicines, we could all be working together, but no, 'my God says that your God is wrong so I must kill you'.

It's fkING INSANE, there should be no debate, it is JUST fkING INSANE. If Little Ex came to me and said 'According to my book God says I can poke your eye out because last night you sent me to bed for been naughty and you slapped my arse for having a tantrum after I'd thrown the dinner you cooked for me back at you because it had pork in it...'

Seriously, would anyone this side of the real world tolerate that?

I despair, I really do.



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Yep - that kind of sums it up nicely.

Any time soon ISIL will acquire some serious long range missiles and will use them without thought of consequence

superkartracer

8,959 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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TheExcession said:
Here's a thought...

Get them all round a table.

Proffer the option, "Hey lads, let's just stop all this, you know, it's been going on for at bit too long now. Let's just stop it now. Working together we really could get on very well and feed all our children and we'll all prosper."

But no...

"My GOD says your GOD is a dirty pig"

BLAM
BLAM
BOOM
BIG BOOM
BIGGER BOOM


This is the fking idiocy, and it doesn't matter how many bombs are dropped at xyz. the hatred will not stop.

These people want a law that is the word and law of THEIR God, not the law of man. The law of their God is enshrined in Islamic teaching. There are no other rules allowed.

Christianity is fking just as hopeless at maintaining its laws. "Though shalt not shag thy neighbour's wife" - how many times does this go unpunished (by death)?

Just like in the Terminator films, this whole cluster fk will not stop.

It's the children I feel sorry for. The adults should get a fking grip and fking well cop on to the fact that we have a pleasant life supporting planet here, decent technology and medicines, we could all be working together, but no, 'my God says that your God is wrong so I must kill you'.

It's fkING INSANE, there should be no debate, it is JUST fkING INSANE. If Little Ex came to me and said 'According to my book God says I can poke your eye out because last night you sent me to bed for been naughty and you slapped my arse for having a tantrum after I'd thrown the dinner you cooked for me back at you because it had pork in it...'

Seriously, would anyone this side of the real world tolerate that?

I despair, I really do.



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Simple solution, all religion must die, sorted.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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superkartracer said:
Simple solution, all religion must die, sorted.
Agreed, apart from my religion of course. I didn't quite get time to tell you all what my religion is. Of course being The Excession, that means my religion is better than all the other religigions [sic] that you can think of.

So who should we kill first, before I then have to kill you?

What a miserable state of affairs.

What the fk makes people so ignorant to realise that they are going no where with this fight but want to continue?

It is an ignorant realisation at work here. The realisation that they have to kill each other with the ignorant lack of understanding that when you play 'eye for an eye' everyone ends up blind.

I cannot think of one single reason to be proud of a child wanting to go and die in a fight. Just the other day my boy asked me, "Daddy is it true that the Germans and English played football together on Christmas Day during the world war" I told him "Yes, I believe that to be true." then he asked "So why did they fight each other again afterwards? That's just silly".

My exact reply to him was "I've no idea, I wasn't there at the time but it seems fking insane to me".












rxtx

6,016 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Zod said:
So, in answer to the question, "would you rather be governed by people who have won an election in which you had the opportunity to vote or a dictator who has attained power through force?" they would answer that they would rather the latter?
I think you might be confusing a Western ideology with one that doesn't exist in certain parts of the world. They are alien concepts to both sides.

KareemK

1,110 posts

118 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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rxtx said:
Zod said:
So, in answer to the question, "would you rather be governed by people who have won an election in which you had the opportunity to vote or a dictator who has attained power through force?" they would answer that they would rather the latter?
I think you might be confusing a Western ideology with one that doesn't exist in certain parts of the world. They are alien concepts to both sides.
yes

Seperation of State and Church?

Not. Ever. Gonna. Happen.

Precedence will always be given to the latter.

Bill

52,472 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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They've had the odd wobble (as did we back in the day...) but Turkey seem to be going ok.

I love the idea that getting rid of religion woould cure the world's ills, but people will always find something to fight over whether it's religion, tribes, land, some perceived slight one great-grandfather did to another or football.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Zod said:
You live in Germany and you don't understand the value of your vote? Wow!
1. I'm American. I understand quite well how little my vote matters. Particularly in light of corporate personhood and the campaign finance law rollbacks.

2. Hitler was not elected by the people.

You are delusional if you think your vote matters on the national stage.

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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scherzkeks said:
Zod said:
You live in Germany and you don't understand the value of your vote? Wow!
1. I'm American. I understand quite well how little my vote matters. Particularly in light of corporate personhood and the campaign finance law rollbacks.

2. Hitler was not elected by the people.

You are delusional if you think your vote matters on the national stage.
Let's just drop elections then. You should talk to some of your acquaintances and ask them why people preferred the West German system over the East German one, given that their votes are worthless.

Hitler was elected in that the NSDAP was the largest party after the 1933 election, albeit without an overall majority. He consolidated his power through legitimate parliamentary means by getting other parties to support the Enabling Act.

Driller

8,310 posts

277 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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scherzkeks said:
You are delusional if you think your vote matters on the national stage.
yes

KareemK

1,110 posts

118 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Bill said:
They've had the odd wobble (as did we back in the day...) but Turkey seem to be going ok.
But Turkey is torn geographically between Eurasia and Africa and it's political/social system somewhat reflects that. It's a unique country, geopolitically speaking.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Zod said:
Let's just drop elections then. You should talk to some of your acquaintances and ask them why people preferred the West German system over the East German one, given that their votes are worthless.
I will concede that I still have some faith in the German system; but things here are somewhat abnormal for the Western world, in that regulation still exists. As for the US, you could drop the vote tomorrow and it wouldn't matter; the (corporate) persons who count would continue to operate as though the window dressings were still in place, and as long as the masses can buy iPads on credit, they won't notice.
Zod said:
Hitler was elected in that the NSDAP was the largest party after the 1933 election, albeit without an overall majority. He consolidated his power through legitimate parliamentary means by getting other parties to support the Enabling Act.
laugh Legitimate. Oh my. PvH must be rolling in his grave.

KareemK

1,110 posts

118 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Driller said:
scherzkeks said:
You are delusional if you think your vote matters on the national stage.
yes
We saw that rather starkly when Blair went to war in spite of what the majority of Brits wanted.

Anyone thinking Cameron won't put boots on the ground again this time if he thinks its politically expendient to do so regardless of what the electorate thinks is likewise deluded, even though he has stated he won't.

Clivey

5,108 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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I really do despair at humanity. The crux of the issue is that a large proportion of people are evil scensoredts. - Religion and politics are simply enablers and excuses.

The only way to tackle the situation is for everybody to do something (however small) to enforce our belief that these evil acts are unacceptable. If the political system is broken, we must force change. Of course, we won't because we're essentially plugged-in to the Matrix.