ISIS into Baghdad

[hornetrider]

Latest news is they are on the brink of breaching into Baghdad. I must admit I thought that Iraqi forces would be robust enough to prevent this situation happening and that there would generally be civil unrest/war/fighting out in the regions, however it seems this is not the case.

What happens when ISIS get into Baghdad and start shooting up the place? Will Baghdad fall? Will Iraq such that it is be taken over?

[Maxf]

I'm afraid I always assumed the new Iraqi army would be next to useless. Just seeing the training clips on the news years ago told me that. I assume they melted away as soon as they faced some reasonable opposition.

I would hope the coalition air strikes would keep them from entering Baghdad en-mass, with any heavy weaponary anyway - although who knows - and once in the central zones, rather than the suburbs it would be very messy indeed.

[Eric Mc]

Is this the final chapter in the brief existence of Iraq?

ISIS/ISIL/IS has the stomach for a fight. The Iraqi Army and the West doesn't.

[Soov535]

This is not going to end well.

[plasticpig]

Not if the Peshmerga have anything to say about it. Despite some internal differences they are a proven fighting force and they really really hate militant islamists. What they desperately need is weapons and ammunition which they are now being supplied with.

[davepoth]

plasticpig said:

Not if the Peshmerga have anything to say about it. Despite some internal differences they are a proven fighting force and they really really hate militant islamists. What they desperately need is weapons and ammunition which they are now being supplied with.

The Peshmerga aren't going to bother themselves with going that far south. The only people who are willing and able to take the fight to ISIS in Baghdad is Iran. That's going to be an interesting conversation, almost as good as the one we've already had in secret with Assad.

[zcacogp]

plasticpig said:

Not if the Peshmerga have anything to say about it. Despite some internal differences they are a proven fighting force and they really really hate militant islamists. What they desperately need is weapons and ammunition which they are now being supplied with.

Forgive me for being overly cynical, but I suspect you have just identified the group whom we will next be fighting in the Middle East.


Oli.

[9mm]

Maxf said:

I'm afraid I always assumed the new Iraqi army would be next to useless. Just seeing the training clips on the news years ago told me that.

Same here. Anyone remember the Republican Guard? Bunch of wusses. The ME seems to produce great insurgents but crap soldiers for some reason.

[plasticpig]

davepoth said:

The Peshmerga aren't going to bother themselves with going that far south. The only people who are willing and able to take the fight to ISIS in Baghdad is Iran. That's going to be an interesting conversation, almost as good as the one we've already had in secret with Assad.

I think they will. They have a few scores to settle. Any ISIS presence in Iraq is a threat to Kurdistan.

[Lost soul]

9mm said:

Same here. Anyone remember the Republican Guard? Bunch of wusses. The ME seems to produce great insurgents but crap soldiers for some reason.

I doubt they were wusses , however several days of aerial attack would lessen your resolve to keep fighting

[kdri155]

anonymous said:

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Kind of like the evacuation of the US embassy in Vietnam as the war there ended, a sudden mass rush for repatriation to the US.

[stichill99]

Just wait....The Yanks are about to ride to the rescue!!! Over on Rennlist there is a soldier put his Porsche up for sale today as he is returning to Iraq to sort out ISIS!

[edgyedgy]

anonymous said:

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I suspect the americans will pay lip service to taking them out but when it comes down to it they'll be on their own.vice documentary about afghan interpretors on youtube shows how they were all told they would be made 'americans' but are still there being hunted by Taliban

[hornetrider]

Looks like the Yanks are breaking out the Apaches tasked with defending the US embassy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...

[dfen5]

Battlefield nukes.

Either that or sort out the ISIL/ISIS supply chain. The logistics of organising an army as large and diverse as they seem to be must take some doing. They can't be confiscating or seizing enough kit to keep themselves going.