Dj Dr fox arrested

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steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Magog said:
steveT350C said:
What is OK? Ok.....

I always worked on the idea that a female's primary erogenous zone is her brain.

Get her to 'want' you mentally, then the physical stuff is easy.
rofl

I nearly mentioned Tony, genius, and so true.

Edited by steveT350C on Wednesday 1st October 21:06

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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9mm said:
La Liga said:
Apparently it's ambiguous as to whether or not you should walk up to a work colleague you have no relationship with and grab her tits, whilst at work rolleyes

Getting a bit desperate now.
Desperately obtuse perhaps. rolleyes

Let's stick to a scenario we can identify with. You don't "walk up to a work colleague and grab her tits, whilst at work".

You take her out for a drink/meal, perceive yourself to be on a good thing and make the first move. Which is unlikely to be 'grabbing her tits' but might well involve a snog and a bit of a grope if the snog seems to be going well.

Is that ok? If so great, we know that's a move that won't get us arrested (all based on sensible assumptions such as us not being 70 and her 15). If it's not ok, what is?
Obtuse? This whole "what if" thinking has come from people trying to make out as if there's some major ambiguity with what DLT did, and that it's common behaviour.

Regarding any theoretical scenario, read this and make your own mind up - what are you expecting? Some exhaustive list? http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual...



rovermorris999

5,201 posts

189 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Every gentleman knows it's tits first. smile After her brain of course.

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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La Liga said:
9mm said:
La Liga said:
Apparently it's ambiguous as to whether or not you should walk up to a work colleague you have no relationship with and grab her tits, whilst at work rolleyes

Getting a bit desperate now.
Desperately obtuse perhaps. rolleyes

Let's stick to a scenario we can identify with. You don't "walk up to a work colleague and grab her tits, whilst at work".

You take her out for a drink/meal, perceive yourself to be on a good thing and make the first move. Which is unlikely to be 'grabbing her tits' but might well involve a snog and a bit of a grope if the snog seems to be going well.

Is that ok? If so great, we know that's a move that won't get us arrested (all based on sensible assumptions such as us not being 70 and her 15). If it's not ok, what is?
Obtuse? This whole "what if" thinking has come from people trying to make out as if there's some major ambiguity with what DLT did, and that it's common behaviour.

Regarding any theoretical scenario, read this and make your own mind up - what are you expecting? Some exhaustive list? http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual...

For the record, I don't see any ambiguity in DLT's actions. I think the discussion has moved on now.

Do you believe that it's acceptable for men to make sexual contact without asking for permission first, if they believe the other party will be receptive and is able to give consent?

I'm not suggesting men should have carte blanche to try it with everyone.

number 46

1,019 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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9mm said:
Do you believe that it's acceptable for men to make sexual contact without asking for permission first, if they believe the other party will be receptive and is able to give consent?

I'm not suggesting men should have carte blanche to try it with everyone.
Dave is that you !!! Oh I'm glad that you don't want carte blanche to try it with everyone, how reassuring !!! What do you suggest, maybe trainees or new arrives only??

Edited by number 46 on Wednesday 1st October 21:53

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I'm sorry, but are some of you 15? If this stuff is causing you such confusion, maybe try the problem page of Mizz?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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9mm said:
Do you believe that it's acceptable for men to make sexual contact without asking for permission first, if they believe the other party will be receptive and is able to give consent?
Of course, but I don't think it's some easy-to-get-caught-out grey area people here are presenting, and then disingenuously aligning to the DLT example.

The prosecution needs to prove beyond reasonable doubt the absence of consent. This isn't easily done. This is a major reason why rape convictions are low. It often comes down to his / her word against his. This is no different from sexual assaults.

Misjudgement of the boundaries of an intimate 'session' (obviously assuming you'd stop if she said whatever were too far), isn't going to amount to criminal liability.


lord trumpton

7,389 posts

126 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Justayellowbadge said:
Oakey said:
I'm pretty sure he's not a doctor as well!
Or a fox.
This deserves more hehe

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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steveT350C said:
What is OK? Ok.....

I always worked on the idea that a female's primary erogenous zone is her brain. Anyone fumbling around trying to get a snog or grope is a bit of a Neanderthal.

Get her to 'want' you mentally, then the physical stuff is easy.
Are you really skilful with women or a hypnotist?

Oakey

27,564 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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9mm said:
I'm not interested in being told when to stop - I get that. I want to know when it's ok to start and you seem reluctant to provide an answer to that question for reasons I can't fathom.
I'm not reluctant to answer, it's just a stupid question.

It assumes all women behave the same and that there's some specific Konami code you have to perform that ends with a verbal sapproval to feel a tit or whatever.

As someone else said, you go with the flow and you know when it's right and she'll either reciprocate or back off.

No one is going to get arrested in this scenario.

If you don't take no for an answer and continue to force yourself on her and paw at her, etc then you may just be a bit of a pest.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Written and witnessed consent. It's the only solution to future court prosecution. I carry a pre-written form with me at all times.

Just in case she wants to protect herself from being wrongly accused.

Skywalker

3,269 posts

214 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Impasse said:
Written and witnessed consent. It's the only solution to future court prosecution. I carry a pre-written form with me at all times.

Just in case she wants to protect herself from being wrongly accused.
"Good2Go" app on your smartphone?

Seriously

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Skywalker said:
"Good2Go" app on your smartphone?

Seriously
He took my phone off me or I didn't consent to him sticking it in there.

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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S who will do Masterchef now? Will Wallace have to form his own opinions?

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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La Liga and Oakey...

Thanks for your replies. I'm pleased to see our views are in alignment and you're not saying males should rely on telepathy or have to ask permission before making physical contact (excluding random tit grabbing, etc).

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32332559

Multiple complainants are never a good thing to face.

He's apparently elected to have his trial at a Magistrates' court which seems odd.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Not guilty of everything.

He'll probably now have to sell his house to pay for it all

Adrian W

13,869 posts

228 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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audidoody said:
Not guilty of everything.

He'll probably now have to sell his house to pay for it all
I hope he has the resources to sue whoever made the decisions personally,

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Adrian W said:
audidoody said:
Not guilty of everything.

He'll probably now have to sell his house to pay for it all
I hope he has the resources to sue whoever made the decisions personally,
....if he ever gets told who they are.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Why would he be able to sue someone who made the decisions because he was found NG? An understanding of the process may help to realise that's not really going to be possible.