Dj Dr fox arrested
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9mm said:
La Liga said:
Apparently it's ambiguous as to whether or not you should walk up to a work colleague you have no relationship with and grab her tits, whilst at work
Getting a bit desperate now.
Desperately obtuse perhaps. Getting a bit desperate now.
Let's stick to a scenario we can identify with. You don't "walk up to a work colleague and grab her tits, whilst at work".
You take her out for a drink/meal, perceive yourself to be on a good thing and make the first move. Which is unlikely to be 'grabbing her tits' but might well involve a snog and a bit of a grope if the snog seems to be going well.
Is that ok? If so great, we know that's a move that won't get us arrested (all based on sensible assumptions such as us not being 70 and her 15). If it's not ok, what is?
Regarding any theoretical scenario, read this and make your own mind up - what are you expecting? Some exhaustive list? http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual...
La Liga said:
9mm said:
La Liga said:
Apparently it's ambiguous as to whether or not you should walk up to a work colleague you have no relationship with and grab her tits, whilst at work
Getting a bit desperate now.
Desperately obtuse perhaps. Getting a bit desperate now.
Let's stick to a scenario we can identify with. You don't "walk up to a work colleague and grab her tits, whilst at work".
You take her out for a drink/meal, perceive yourself to be on a good thing and make the first move. Which is unlikely to be 'grabbing her tits' but might well involve a snog and a bit of a grope if the snog seems to be going well.
Is that ok? If so great, we know that's a move that won't get us arrested (all based on sensible assumptions such as us not being 70 and her 15). If it's not ok, what is?
Regarding any theoretical scenario, read this and make your own mind up - what are you expecting? Some exhaustive list? http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual...
Do you believe that it's acceptable for men to make sexual contact without asking for permission first, if they believe the other party will be receptive and is able to give consent?
I'm not suggesting men should have carte blanche to try it with everyone.
9mm said:
Do you believe that it's acceptable for men to make sexual contact without asking for permission first, if they believe the other party will be receptive and is able to give consent?
I'm not suggesting men should have carte blanche to try it with everyone.
Dave is that you !!! Oh I'm glad that you don't want carte blanche to try it with everyone, how reassuring !!! What do you suggest, maybe trainees or new arrives only??I'm not suggesting men should have carte blanche to try it with everyone.
Edited by number 46 on Wednesday 1st October 21:53
9mm said:
Do you believe that it's acceptable for men to make sexual contact without asking for permission first, if they believe the other party will be receptive and is able to give consent?
Of course, but I don't think it's some easy-to-get-caught-out grey area people here are presenting, and then disingenuously aligning to the DLT example. The prosecution needs to prove beyond reasonable doubt the absence of consent. This isn't easily done. This is a major reason why rape convictions are low. It often comes down to his / her word against his. This is no different from sexual assaults.
Misjudgement of the boundaries of an intimate 'session' (obviously assuming you'd stop if she said whatever were too far), isn't going to amount to criminal liability.
steveT350C said:
What is OK? Ok.....
I always worked on the idea that a female's primary erogenous zone is her brain. Anyone fumbling around trying to get a snog or grope is a bit of a Neanderthal.
Get her to 'want' you mentally, then the physical stuff is easy.
Are you really skilful with women or a hypnotist? I always worked on the idea that a female's primary erogenous zone is her brain. Anyone fumbling around trying to get a snog or grope is a bit of a Neanderthal.
Get her to 'want' you mentally, then the physical stuff is easy.
9mm said:
I'm not interested in being told when to stop - I get that. I want to know when it's ok to start and you seem reluctant to provide an answer to that question for reasons I can't fathom.
I'm not reluctant to answer, it's just a stupid question.It assumes all women behave the same and that there's some specific Konami code you have to perform that ends with a verbal sapproval to feel a tit or whatever.
As someone else said, you go with the flow and you know when it's right and she'll either reciprocate or back off.
No one is going to get arrested in this scenario.
If you don't take no for an answer and continue to force yourself on her and paw at her, etc then you may just be a bit of a pest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32332559
Multiple complainants are never a good thing to face.
He's apparently elected to have his trial at a Magistrates' court which seems odd.
Multiple complainants are never a good thing to face.
He's apparently elected to have his trial at a Magistrates' court which seems odd.
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