Dj Dr fox arrested

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zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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98elise said:
The important bit is consent.
Oh for goodness sake. Bit of heavy petting, a quick feel & she says "no". You stop & 20+ years later you're dragged through the papers & your life is over.
I'm sure the victim in the DLT titty squeeze case barely slept a wink in the last few decades.
Compensation/blame culture at its finest clap

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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g3org3y said:
From the BBC website:

BBC said:
His arrest is not part of high-profile sex crime investigation Operation Yewtree, which was set up in the wake of revelations about BBC presenter Jimmy Savile.
How do they differentiate?

98elise

26,578 posts

161 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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zygalski said:
98elise said:
The important bit is consent.
Oh for goodness sake. Bit of heavy petting, a quick feel & she says "no". You stop & 20+ years later you're dragged through the papers & your life is over.
I'm sure the victim in the DLT titty squeeze case barely slept a wink in the last few decades.
Compensation/blame culture at its finest clap
The case I was commenting on was where a bloke was trying to get his fingers into a girl who was saying no. If she's not interested and has made that clear, then its not ok.

option click

1,164 posts

226 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Rawwr said:
What is it about radio DJs and sexual assault?
My concern grows for David 'Kid' Jensen...


deadslow

7,999 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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98elise said:
zygalski said:
98elise said:
The important bit is consent.
Oh for goodness sake. Bit of heavy petting, a quick feel & she says "no". You stop & 20+ years later you're dragged through the papers & your life is over.
I'm sure the victim in the DLT titty squeeze case barely slept a wink in the last few decades.
Compensation/blame culture at its finest clap
The case I was commenting on was where a bloke was trying to get his fingers into a girl who was saying no. If she's not interested and has made that clear, then its not ok.
If the guy had scratched someone's car for a laugh they'd be screaming for re-instatement of capital punishment, but there's a real strange admiration for sex offenders on PH. Weird.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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deadslow said:
98elise said:
zygalski said:
98elise said:
The important bit is consent.
Oh for goodness sake. Bit of heavy petting, a quick feel & she says "no". You stop & 20+ years later you're dragged through the papers & your life is over.
I'm sure the victim in the DLT titty squeeze case barely slept a wink in the last few decades.
Compensation/blame culture at its finest clap
The case I was commenting on was where a bloke was trying to get his fingers into a girl who was saying no. If she's not interested and has made that clear, then its not ok.
If the guy had scratched someone's car for a laugh they'd be screaming for reinstatement of capital punishment, but there's a real strange admiration for sex offenders on PH. Weird.
Hello Mr Strawman, how are you today?
a) I don't admire sex offenders, though if DLT is one I suppose I am too & so are about 50% of the male population
b) I don't agree with capital punishment, whether for keying a car or squeezing a booby
c) Everyone knows these minor "sex offender" cases are only going through court because of institutional failure & guilt over Savile. Anyone who is or ever has been even vaguely "a name" must be worried about even minor indiscretions.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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zygalski said:
c) Everyone knows these minor "sex offender" cases are only going through court because of institutional failure & guilt over Savile. Anyone who is or ever has been even vaguely "a name" must be worried about even minor indiscretions.
Do they? Or is it because the victims are coming forward now they realise the previously-protected can longer get away with it.

"Sex offender" doesn't require quotations as they are by definition sex offenders.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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La Liga said:
o they? Or is it because the victims are coming forward now they realise the previously-protected can longer get away with it.

"Sex offender" doesn't require quotations as they are by definition sex offenders.
Well my point is that if DLT is a sex offender then so are most single blokes who have a couple of drinks & go to a nightclub. The kind of offense that he committed happens hundreds of times every night up & down the country. Have to say - I fell kinda sorry for him.
The term loses any sense of shock & dare I say most of its meaning when you apply it to a trivial case such as that of DLT.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Every single bloke over about 15 years old has tried it on with a girl to see how far he can get. At some point the girl will say he's gone too far.

Based on that, either
a) We're all sex offenders
b) A certain latitude should be allowed for 'everyday life'

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
Every single bloke over about 15 years old has tried it on with a girl to see how far he can get. At some point the girl will say he's gone too far.

Based on that, either
a) We're all sex offenders
b) A certain latitude should be allowed for 'everyday life'
Thankyou.
Another sane person.

TTwiggy

11,537 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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zygalski said:
La Liga said:
o they? Or is it because the victims are coming forward now they realise the previously-protected can longer get away with it.

"Sex offender" doesn't require quotations as they are by definition sex offenders.
Well my point is that if DLT is a sex offender then so are most single blokes who have a couple of drinks & go to a nightclub. The kind of offense that he committed happens hundreds of times every night up & down the country. Have to say - I fell kinda sorry for him.
The term loses any sense of shock & dare I say most of its meaning when you apply it to a trivial case such as that of DLT.
Why this constant reference to pubs and clubs? DLT was at a place of work when he committed the offence. Would it be ok to pop down to Tesco and cop a feel of the till operator's boobs?

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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zygalski said:
Rovinghawk said:
Every single bloke over about 15 years old has tried it on with a girl to see how far he can get. At some point the girl will say he's gone too far.

Based on that, either
a) We're all sex offenders
b) A certain latitude should be allowed for 'everyday life'
Thankyou.
Another sane person.
Funny enough due to all the kerfuffle going on recently I have been thinking back to my younger days and yes it could be me next

greygoose

8,260 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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TTwiggy said:
Why this constant reference to pubs and clubs? DLT was at a place of work when he committed the offence. Would it be ok to pop down to Tesco and cop a feel of the till operator's boobs?
That seems the big difference to me, this isn't a teenager trying it on it is a grown man groping women at work.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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What I want to know is what can I do about suing all the fat slags that groped my arse when I used to go out for a night.

Even when I said no and made them aware that I was not interested they would keep pinching my backside or groping my crutch.

I was deeply traumatised by all this as a young lad. It would stop me getting on the dance floor and I felt pinned into the bar area.

Even worse I'll bet they've not go the price of a can of 8 Ace between them.

cry

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Where did you go? Sounds like my kind of place smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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zygalski said:
Well my point is that if DLT is a sex offender then so are most single blokes who have a couple of drinks & go to a nightclub. The kind of offense that he committed happens hundreds of times every night up & down the country. Have to say - I fell kinda sorry for him.
The term loses any sense of shock & dare I say most of its meaning when you apply it to a trivial case such as that of DLT.
I don't think most people amount 13 sexual assault allegations, which are probable to be more likely than not true.

TTwiggy said:
Why this constant reference to pubs and clubs? DLT was at a place of work when he committed the offence. Would it be ok to pop down to Tesco and cop a feel of the till operator's boobs?
Yep, shift the context completely away from the actual one to one people can "relate" to, to make a point.








BMWBen

4,899 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
Every single bloke over about 15 years old has tried it on with a girl to see how far he can get. At some point the girl will say he's gone too far.

Based on that, either
a) We're all sex offenders
b) A certain latitude should be allowed for 'everyday life'
Yes, but the difference between the sex offender and the normal bloke is that the normal bloke stops when asked, rather than escalating further. Escalating further only happens if the first move is not rebuffed surely.

On what planet is "she wouldn't let me stroke her thigh, but I guess she'd be ok with me whipping my nob out and slapping her in the face with it" a reasonable train of thought?

Personally I don't have much trouble telling the difference between trying it on, and committing a sexual assault. Not sure why this seems to be a contentious issue. Maybe the rape culture feminists are right after all.

Edit: Just to add - where any of these historical allegations against celebrities have stuck, they've been found guilty by a jury, not the establishment. That's people like you and me, hearing the facts, then deciding that what happened was not "trying it on" but either a straight up sexual assault or a gross abuse of power, age, intimidation etc. I'm not sure there are any cases where someone has been convicted on the basis of someone squeezing their date's bum on the way out of the restaurant.

Edited by BMWBen on Wednesday 1st October 18:34

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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BMWBen said:
Rovinghawk said:
Every single bloke over about 15 years old has tried it on with a girl to see how far he can get. At some point the girl will say he's gone too far.

Based on that, either
a) We're all sex offenders
b) A certain latitude should be allowed for 'everyday life'
Yes, but the difference between the sex offender and the normal bloke is that the normal bloke stops when asked, rather than escalating further. Escalating further only happens if the first move is not rebuffed surely.

On what planet is "she wouldn't let me stroke her thigh, but I guess she'd be ok with me whipping my nob out and slapping her in the face with it" a reasonable train of thought?

Personally I don't have much trouble telling the difference between trying it on, and committing a sexual assault. Not sure why this seems to be a contentious issue. Maybe the rape culture feminists are right after all.

Edit: Just to add - where any of these historical allegations against celebrities have stuck, they've been found guilty by a jury, not the establishment. That's people like you and me, hearing the facts, then deciding that what happened was not "trying it on" but either a straight up sexual assault or a gross abuse of power, age, intimidation etc. I'm not sure there are any cases where someone has been convicted on the basis of someone squeezing their date's bum on the way out of the restaurant.

Edited by BMWBen on Wednesday 1st October 18:34
If it's so clear, help me out. When is it acceptable for a bloke to make the first move and touch a female intimately?


Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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9mm said:
If it's so clear, help me out. When is it acceptable for a bloke to make the first move and touch a female intimately?
Well, within minutes of meeting on the first date it's customary to whip out your cock, grab her by the head and shove it in her mouth. Right there in the restaurant even.

Try it out and report back.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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rovermorris999 said:
Where did you go? Sounds like my kind of place smile
Tramps. Should haveguesses clue was i think the name biggrin