Modern day alchemy has come true

Modern day alchemy has come true

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anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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MrBrightSi said:
The ad hominem attacks aren't helping anyone.

The rossi story is complex by the looks of it


Problem is if he's a nut case so is the head of industrial heat. 2 billion dollars worth of crazy.


All he has done has let the cat out of the bag. Bigger companies are serctetivly doing their own versions. There's a company in the us who use a similar setup that produces helium and heat.

With cold fusion it appears getting your intellectual property protected is difficult I can appreciate wanting to make some money out of it before everyone has legally copied yours.
oh wow. You actually beleive this guff! You know I can see into the future? When nothing comes of this you will blame the oil companies for secretly buying up the idea and hiding it in their perpetual motion machine vault.

fido

16,807 posts

256 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/12/05...

.. if it did work it would produce gamma-rays!

MrBrightSi

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2,912 posts

171 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I'd say im optimistic, i don't believe it fully im not a scientist.

However, shouldn't solutions like this, be more thought of and given a bit more time.

Yes, it doesn't emit gamma rays, but science is an ever evolving thing right?

Surely we're treating it like religion when experiments do X but X can't be done because Y. Surely the thought should be how a man got to X, if so many people have put themselves up for big losses in this, only for it to be a scam. It seems a little too much to lose for some scam.

Edit: Independent scienctists have said that the refuse from the 32 day experiment could only be produced by a nuclear process. Maybe we haven't worked with low energy fusion for long enough? Haven't countries spent billions on hot fusion and the like, maybe it's just a blank in the picture, not that anyone is wrong.

Edited by MrBrightSi on Friday 10th October 16:45

hornet

6,333 posts

251 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I love the 2+2=5 tinfoil hattery at the end of that Extremetech piece!

Article said:
The next few weeks could be very interesting indeed. According to one report at Sifferkoll, a big bank downloaded the new E-Cat report just minutes after it was made available online — and “oil futures have stayed volatile since.” And of course this morning Glasgow University announced that it would be selling its fossil fuel investments. Hmm…
Certainly an interesting topic, but not the first time such claims have been made and a topic that's awash with chancers. Wasn't there an Irish company who claimed to have done something similar a few years ago?

The question I'd ask to any of the free energy researchers, especially those who claim their work is being suppressed, is "how do you power your house?". Many of them have been on the alternative media circuit for years now (so hardly being suppressed), and if they've got time to write and sell endless books, they've got time to set up their own house up to run off the free energy produced by their machines.

PlankWithANailIn

439 posts

150 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Even if this does work the mining and refining of the Nickel to the purity required will cost more in energy terms than the 4x Heat output to input it is generating. Best this will do is start a new line of research which might find a better material.

Most likely its snake oil.

jimreed

120 posts

124 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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It is utter rubbish. It will take at most ten minutes to search the truth.
You could gather the materiels to test some minor parts of theses theories for a small sum - basic electrical knowledge will disprove most of it.


cymtriks

4,560 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th October 2014
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To the doubters

The exact nature of the Cold Fusion reaction is part of the research. The absences of some usual signs of fusion is therefore part of the research.

Just remember how many technological discoveries that we now accept as normal were once "impossible" for some reason.

Surely it's worth a look.