UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

[steveT350C]

While we wait, interview with UKIP's first MP in the Guardian.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/19/uk...

[Scuffers]

steveT350C said:

jogon said:

He appears a more left leaning troll this one and would have been relishing Barosso's comments.

I welcome his point of view; just trying to drag him back to the point of this thread.

Does he have a point of view?

All i get is the sudo intellectual babble of an internet narcissist.

[JustAnotherLogin]

steveT350C said:

Any thoughts on Barroso's interview this morning?

Well I have.

BBC said:

Mr Barroso would not comment on a report in the Sunday Times that the government could limit the number of national insurance numbers given to low-skilled immigrants.

But he said that while the EU was willing to discuss benefit fraud and sham marriages, an "arbitrary cap" on migration would "not be in conformity with European rules".

Does that not satisfy you if we can restrict benefit payments etc? So the only ones coming are contributing to the economy not draining it? Seems to be in our interest.

While we were talking on thoughts, no Kipper has decided to say what the UKIP manifesto means by "no to political correctness". Can it just another "common sense" soundbite that actually has nothing behind it can it?

And no comments on my suggestions that the heirs to squadron 303; or Jerzy Rozycki, Henryk Zygalski and Marian Rejewski deserve the same respect that some of you believe the rest of Europe owes us for saving them?

Why not answer the serious questions and points before you spend so much time accusing anyone not worshipping at the high altal of Farage of trolling

[Scuffers]

You know as well as the rest of us we can't stop paying child benefit tax credits housing benefit excetra excetra because i'll just take it to the european court of human rights.

To think otherwise is just laughable.

And as for 303 squadron, are you for real?

Seriously?

[jogon]

Benefit tourism is not the only issue neither is sham marriages they are just part of the huge problem that is crippling our public services and inflating the welfare bill.

As for 'political correctness' any party that offers something different to what we have seen in Rotherham and many other parts of the country surely has got to be worth a punt as it couldn't get any worse could it.

[steveT350C]

JustAnotherLogin said:

steveT350C said:

Any thoughts on Barroso's interview this morning?

Well I have.

BBC said:

Mr Barroso would not comment on a report in the Sunday Times that the government could limit the number of national insurance numbers given to low-skilled immigrants.

But he said that while the EU was willing to discuss benefit fraud and sham marriages, an "arbitrary cap" on migration would "not be in conformity with European rules".

Does that not satisfy you if we can restrict benefit payments etc? So the only ones coming are contributing to the economy not draining it? Seems to be in our interest.

While we were talking on thoughts, no Kipper has decided to say what the UKIP manifesto means by "no to political correctness". Can it just another "common sense" soundbite that actually has nothing behind it can it?

And no comments on my suggestions that the heirs to squadron 303; or Jerzy Rozycki, Henryk Zygalski and Marian Rejewski deserve the same respect that some of you believe the rest of Europe owes us for saving them?

Why not answer the serious questions and points before you spend so much time accusing anyone not worshipping at the high altal of Farage of trolling

Fail

[brenflys777]

JustAnotherLogin said:

anyone not worshipping at the high altal of Farage of trolling

"Repeat please, repeat please!" Dacka dacka.

[mrpurple]

steveT350C said:

Fail

But Steve he worships at the TVR altar so he must get some thing right.

edit... I'll leave any errors for THR99 to correct on my behalf.

[steveT350C]

mrpurple said:

steveT350C said:

Fail

But Steve he worships at the TVR altar so he must get some thing right.

Then all is not lost with this one, mrpurple.

[FiF]

Another view on the increasing disconnection with politics, showing that it's across social classes, not just the "left behind" and reform of the political agenda is urgently required. Connection with topic is that rise of UKIP is suggested to be simply a symptom of this wider dilemma.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/it-is-pol...

[JustAnotherLogin]

So that's it? The best that UKIP brains can manage?

One assertion that its impossible even though Barroso didn't rule it out, and I can't be serious about suggesting that we weren't alone in "saving europe" and that other European nations deserve your respect and cooperation as much as we deserve theirs

One "fail" without any justification at all (how long did that take to think up?)

And a response (Dacka, dacka etc) of which I cannot even guess the meaning

And no comments at all to the "no to political correctness"

So, someone raises 3 serious points, and gets those responses. Who is doing the trolling?

[jogon]

JustAnotherLogin said:

So that's it? The best that UKIP brains can manage?

One assertion that its impossible even though Barroso didn't rule it out, and I can't be serious about suggesting that we weren't alone in "saving europe" and that other European nations deserve your respect and cooperation as much as we deserve theirs

One "fail" without any justification at all (how long did that take to think up?)

And a response (Dacka, dacka etc) of which I cannot even guess the meaning

And no comments at all to the "no to political correctness"

So, someone raises 3 serious points, and gets those responses. Who is doing the trolling?

Scroll up you moron..

jogon
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Benefit tourism is not the only issue neither is sham marriages they are just part of the huge problem that is crippling our public services and inflating the welfare bill.

As for 'political correctness' any party that offers something different to what we have seen in Rotherham and many other parts of the country surely has got to be worth a punt as it couldn't get any worse could it.

[Scuffers]

I watched him on tv, it was pretty clear, no way can the UK limit open borders.

It was not a maybe, or possibly this, or that, it was a no.

Spin that as you want, its just not going to happen, to argue otherwise just pathetic.

[johnxjsc1985]

Why do UKIP have to answer any questions I cant remember any politician over the last 20 years making an honest reply to a reasonable question.
How many Gov's have been judged against their manifesto's.
Lets at least have a level playing field in the honesty and integrity stakes.
UKIP will not form a Government so it almost futile to take apart any pledges or promises. They will more than likely prop up a Conservative Gov but that will be at a price and we all know how Politicians like to keep hold of power at any price.

[steveT350C]

JustAnotherLogin said:

So that's it? The best that UKIP brains can manage?

One assertion that its impossible even though Barroso didn't rule it out, and I can't be serious about suggesting that we weren't alone in "saving europe" and that other European nations deserve your respect and cooperation as much as we deserve theirs

One "fail" without any justification at all (how long did that take to think up?)

And a response (Dacka, dacka etc) of which I cannot even guess the meaning

And no comments at all to the "no to political correctness"

So, someone raises 3 serious points, and gets those responses. Who is doing the trolling?

I will explain if you could answer this simple question.

What was the salient point from Barroso interview?

Hint: one sentence only please......

[JustAnotherLogin]

Jogon, I apologise, I missed your response. Though to resort to insults as you just did is unnecessary. But if benefits are banned for these immigrants, how will theyt inflate the welfare bill? They will as I said be contributing, not taking. So why dod you object to immigrants on those grounds

Scuffers said:

I watched him on tv, it was pretty clear, no way can the UK limit open borders.

It was not a maybe, or possibly this, or that, it was a no.

Spin that as you want, its just not going to happen, to argue otherwise just pathetic.

I suggest you watch it again. He said you cannot limit immigration, but he has not rejected immigration with limitations - such as no welfare, or limits on welfare. He explicitly talked about wanting to cut cases where people abuse the benefits system - 4:30 onwards on the video on the BBC. You are the one spinning what he said

[NicD]

JustAnotherLogin said:

Does that not satisfy you if we can restrict benefit payments etc? So the only ones coming are contributing to the economy not draining it? Seems to be in our interest.

While we were talking on thoughts, no Kipper has decided to say what the UKIP manifesto means by "no to political correctness". Can it just another "common sense" soundbite that actually has nothing behind it can it?

And no comments on my suggestions that the heirs to squadron 303; or Jerzy Rozycki, Henryk Zygalski and Marian Rejewski deserve the same respect that some of you believe the rest of Europe owes us for saving them?

Why not answer the serious questions and points before you spend so much time accusing anyone not worshipping at the high altal of Farage of trolling

what three questions?
All i can see is some aimless and witless rambling. No response required.

[jogon]

JustAnotherLogin said:

I suggest you watch it again. He said you cannot limit immigration, but he has not rejected immigration with limitations - such as no welfare, or limits on welfare. He explicitly talked about wanting to cut cases where people abuse the benefits system - 4:30 onwards on the video on the BBC. You are the one spinning what he said

Have benefits been banned for these immigrants? News to me.

What about the political correctness or do you approve of what is going on in Rotherham and our schools in Birmingham and Tower Hamlets.

I also add the climate change bill supported by liblabcongreen that is set to cost us £1.3 trillion over the next 36 years, only UKIP question such a maronic policy that will not only destroy what is left of our industries but leave us bankrupt in the process.

Edited by jogon on Sunday 19th October 22:37

[zygalski]

powerstroke said:

zygalski said:

Good evening, kippers!
Which continent are we towing the UK 21 miles from the coast of today?

Good evening my jockanese lefty friend how nice of you to drop in

I'm not Scottish.
I bought the GTE from a guy in Oban & drove it 500+ miles home in about 8.5 hours with a stop for dinner included.

[JustAnotherLogin]

steveT350C said:

I will explain if you could answer this simple question.

What was the salient point from Barroso interview?

Hint: one sentence only please......

His salient points were that restricting immigration by an arbitrary quota was in his view illegal under EU law, but that cutting down ion abuse of benefits and sham marriages was not only legal but in the spirit of the EU freedom of movement.

One sentence, more than one salient point, but that is Barroso who didn't comply with your wishes, not me.

Now please answer my questions as you promised