UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

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The Hypno-Toad

12,281 posts

205 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Yet more ammo for UKIP..

http://order-order.com/2014/10/27/hain-stitching-u...

Woman - check
Parents very wealthy Labour donors - check
Little bit of celebrity - check
Friend of Ms Harman - check
Never been to her proposed new constituency - check
Possibly never even been to Wales?

I'm sure that if enough is made of her birthplace she'll stand a chance though. Considering that she was raised & put through the private school system of Los Angeles I'm sure she'll have a lot in common with the council estates and shopping centres of Wales.

They. Just. Don't. Get. It.

People have had enough of this bks & they don't even grasp that things are moving so quickly now that they just can't get away with it anymore. Especially now the appalling way the NHS in Wales has been run by Labour is really coming home to roost.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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How may marginal seats are there between Labour and Conservative probably not many.
A vote for UKIP may well take votes from all parties so I wouldn't take any notice of the scare stories that are being peddled by the usual suspects

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Yet more ammo for UKIP..

http://order-order.com/2014/10/27/hain-stitching-u...

Woman - check
Parents very wealthy Labour donors - check
Little bit of celebrity - check
Friend of Ms Harman - check
Never been to her proposed new constituency - check
Possibly never even been to Wales?

I'm sure that if enough is made of her birthplace she'll stand a chance though. Considering that she was raised & put through the private school system of Los Angeles I'm sure she'll have a lot in common with the council estates and shopping centres of Wales.

They. Just. Don't. Get. It.

People have had enough of this bks & they don't even grasp that things are moving so quickly now that they just can't get away with it anymore. Especially now the appalling way the NHS in Wales has been run by Labour is really coming home to roost.
would fail the 10 years in a real job test...

PRTVR

7,101 posts

221 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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KarlMac said:
Well, i had a my first ever run it with a labour voter/union nutcase this morning. I've heard the stories/anecdotes and seen the news stories but this is my first actual interaction with one of these cretins. Started as a fairly harmless conversation about car insurance, things turned sour when he made the comment "Lloyds gave me a cheaper quote, but I didn't want to buy anything from them as they don't have a union and have been making people redundant, so I went with Halifax". When I pointed out that Lloyds own Halifax his reaction was comparable to the reaction I'd expect if I was caught pissing through his letterbox.

Politically I've been very 'on the fence' and much of the opinion that they're all as bad as each other. At the end of his 15 minute rant I only know one thing, I will never ever vote labour. The only thing stopping me voting UKIP is the chance it may let labour in. I'm sure someone will educate me if this is another nonsense statement from politicians.
It all depends were you live, you could argue that voting Conservative you will get Labour, look at the Heywood results, if the people who voted Conservative, had voted UKIP, Labour would have been kept out, the next election is going to be a strange one, predicting results is going to be hard, voting tactically could lead to more problems, best just vote UKIP. hehe

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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johnxjsc1985 said:
How may marginal seats are there between Labour and Conservative probably not many.
A vote for UKIP may well take votes from all parties so I wouldn't take any notice of the scare stories that are being peddled by the usual suspects
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Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Yet more ammo for UKIP..

Woman - check
Eh?

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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vonuber said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Yet more ammo for UKIP..

Woman - check
Eh?
Selective quoting never fools anyone. She is a liberal labour career politician and daughter of significant labour benefactors. It is actions like these and the recent appointment of Alan Mak, born and schooled in York before studying Law at Cambridge followed by a post at Oxford, who is now standing for the Tories in Havant on the South Coast.

How can these prospective MPs possibly represent their constituents when they have barely visited let alone know the place.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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jogon said:
Selective quoting never fools anyone. She is a liberal labour career politician and daughter of significant labour benefactors. It is actions like these and the recent appointment of Alan Mak, born and schooled in York before studying Law at Cambridge followed by a post at Oxford, who is now standing for the Tories in Havant on the South Coast.

How can these prospective MPs possibly represent their constituents when they have barely visited let alone know the place.
I don't see how the fact she is a woman is relevant.

markh1973

1,795 posts

168 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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jogon said:
Selective quoting never fools anyone. She is a liberal labour career politician and daughter of significant labour benefactors. It is actions like these and the recent appointment of Alan Mak, born and schooled in York before studying Law at Cambridge followed by a post at Oxford, who is now standing for the Tories in Havant on the South Coast.

How can these prospective MPs possibly represent their constituents when they have barely visited let alone know the place.
What was Douglas Carswell's connection with Clacton before becoming MP?

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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markh1973 said:
What was Douglas Carswell's connection with Clacton before becoming MP?
You've obviously investigated it so why don't you enlighten us. Some connect some don't, Douglas and soon to be Mark, are those who obviously do. We will have to wait and see if Alan and Mabel do too.

The Hypno-Toad

12,281 posts

205 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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vonuber said:
jogon said:
Selective quoting never fools anyone. She is a liberal labour career politician and daughter of significant labour benefactors. It is actions like these and the recent appointment of Alan Mak, born and schooled in York before studying Law at Cambridge followed by a post at Oxford, who is now standing for the Tories in Havant on the South Coast.

How can these prospective MPs possibly represent their constituents when they have barely visited let alone know the place.
I don't see how the fact she is a woman is relevant.
At the end of the day UKIP (and the rest of us come to that.) shouldn't give a crap if she's a woman or a cross-dressing Pike named Trish, its the fact that she is being parachuted into that seat because of her mum is & who she has worked for in the past not her abilities, though I bet she makes a great latte. Her gender has only helped with the process because that insane bh Harman is obsessed with making the Labour benches totally female.

Not what you know, who you know. (and how deep mummys bank account is.)

P.S. Three Of A Kind was utter wk.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
At the end of the day UKIP (and the rest of us come to that.) shouldn't give a crap if she's a woman or a cross-dressing Pike named Trish, its the fact that she is being parachuted into that seat because of her mum is & who she has worked for in the past not her abilities, though I bet she makes a great latte. Her gender has only helped with the process because that insane bh Harman is obsessed with making the Labour benches totally female.

Not what you know, who you know. (and how deep mummys bank account is.)

P.S. Three Of A Kind was utter wk.
You're dressing up a lot of assumption as fact there.

I wonder if you know that our not. Either way marks you out as a useful idiot, to coin a political phrase. I worry about the increasing rhetoric from UKIP supporters.

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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FredClogs said:
You're dressing up a lot of assumption as fact there.

I wonder if you know that our not. Either way marks you out as a useful idiot, to coin a political phrase. I worry about the increasing rhetoric from UKIP supporters.
Fact of the matter is the populous are in general waking up to the rise of these career politicians fresh out of uni and polticial roles with no real life commercial experience. They are the new 'nasty' politicians, irrespective of party ties, simply in it for the personal gain rather than that of the constituents. So what do the two established parties do at the first opportunity to show they are listening? Select a bunch of career politicians.

I am really looking forward to May it is going to be spectacular.



Edited by jogon on Monday 27th October 22:20

Timsta

2,779 posts

246 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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FredClogs said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
At the end of the day UKIP (and the rest of us come to that.) shouldn't give a crap if she's a woman or a cross-dressing Pike named Trish, its the fact that she is being parachuted into that seat because of her mum is & who she has worked for in the past not her abilities, though I bet she makes a great latte. Her gender has only helped with the process because that insane bh Harman is obsessed with making the Labour benches totally female.

Not what you know, who you know. (and how deep mummys bank account is.)

P.S. Three Of A Kind was utter wk.
You're dressing up a lot of assumption as fact there.

I wonder if you know that our not. Either way marks you out as a useful idiot, to coin a political phrase. I worry about the increasing rhetoric from UKIP supporters.
You tell em. Now, what are abilities that she was selected for?

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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FredClogs said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
At the end of the day UKIP (and the rest of us come to that.) shouldn't give a crap if she's a woman or a cross-dressing Pike named Trish, its the fact that she is being parachuted into that seat because of her mum is & who she has worked for in the past not her abilities, though I bet she makes a great latte. Her gender has only helped with the process because that insane bh Harman is obsessed with making the Labour benches totally female.

Not what you know, who you know. (and how deep mummys bank account is.)

P.S. Three Of A Kind was utter wk.
You're dressing up a lot of assumption as fact there.

I wonder if you know that our not. Either way marks you out as a useful idiot, to coin a political phrase. I worry about the increasing rhetoric from UKIP supporters.
Yes, I think the assumption about great latte is a bit suspect. But otherwise spot on, another champagne socialist parachuted in by Labour.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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jogon said:
I am really looking forward to May it is going to be spectacular.
Me too... thumbup

Just maybe the times they are a changin'. ... smile More realistically ... fat chance.

Meantime, ITV1 Channel 3 following National ITV News at Ten @ 10:40 ... The Agenda starting in twenty minutes .... Featuring and maybe starring N. Farage... Should be worth a watch ... biggrin

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
At the end of the day UKIP (and the rest of us come to that.) shouldn't give a crap if she's a woman or a cross-dressing Pike named Trish, its the fact that she is being parachuted into that seat because of her mum is & who she has worked for in the past not her abilities, though I bet she makes a great latte. Her gender has only helped with the process because that insane bh Harman is obsessed with making the Labour benches totally female.

Not what you know, who you know. (and how deep mummys bank account is.)

P.S. Three Of A Kind was utter wk.
Harman doesn't mins parachuting a man into a seat he has never visited when it is her husband, I live in his Erdington seat and to be honest i am not sure which is worse, him or the expenses fiddler he followed sion simon who was thrown off one labour gravy train and given a golden ticket to an even bigger European one as a Labour mep.


This is the sort of behavior that is helping UKIP

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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FredClogs said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
At the end of the day UKIP (and the rest of us come to that.) shouldn't give a crap if she's a woman or a cross-dressing Pike named Trish, its the fact that she is being parachuted into that seat because of her mum is & who she has worked for in the past not her abilities, though I bet she makes a great latte. Her gender has only helped with the process because that insane bh Harman is obsessed with making the Labour benches totally female.

Not what you know, who you know. (and how deep mummys bank account is.)

P.S. Three Of A Kind was utter wk.
You're dressing up a lot of assumption as fact there.

I wonder if you know that our not. Either way marks you out as a useful idiot, to coin a political phrase. I worry about the increasing rhetoric from UKIP supporters.
Feel free to correct him.

Tell us why you think that she is the right choice.

Well, our glorious, happy leader is on ITV as I type!

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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MGJohn said:
jogon said:
I am really looking forward to May it is going to be spectacular.
Me too... thumbup

Just maybe the times they are a changin'. ... smile More realistically ... fat chance.

Meantime, ITV1 Channel 3 following National ITV News at Ten @ 10:40 ... The Agenda starting in twenty minutes .... Featuring and maybe starring N. Farage... Should be worth a watch ... biggrin
You watching? Interesting to see how others on the panel have no knowledge, no idea of the significance of or just don't care that control of their country is being handed bit by bit to the EU.
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