UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

[Wombat3]

don4l said:

I've just seen something very interesting.

It looks like Labour could lose up to 35 MP's in Scotland to the SNP. This would make a Conservative minority government, supported by UKIP, a very real possibility.

http://order-order.com/2014/10/30/ipsos-mori-poll-...

Guido has updated the article to include a forecast.

SNP to go from 6 seats to 54 (+48).
Labour from 41 to 4 (-37).
LD's from 11 to 1 (-10).

Not likely.

Much more likely is a minority Labour Gov't supported via a confidence & supply arrangement with what's left of the LDs & the SNP. All pro European happy bedfellows

The SNP will then use it to bend them over on more devolution.

Miliband will do whatever he needs to do, never underestimate that.

[Zod]

don4l said:

I can sort of understand where zod is coming from. New staff, in my business at least, are not productive for at least 6 months. During that they are getting paid. If they leave during this time, then they have cost you a lot of money.

Exactly. Of course it wasn't documented. That would have been heavy-handed. It was a question of asking him to confirm something, his confirming it and the breaking his word.

[mrpurple]

Zod said:

Exactly. Of course it wasn't documented. That would have been heavy-handed. It was a question of asking him to confirm something, his confirming it and the breaking his word.

Fair enough I suppose.... so what chance is there that we are going to get this straightforward IN / OUT referendum?

[brenflys777]

mrpurple said:

Zod said:

Exactly. Of course it wasn't documented. That would have been heavy-handed. It was a question of asking him to confirm something, his confirming it and the breaking his word.

Fair enough I suppose.... so what chance is there that we are going to get this straightforward IN / OUT referendum?

[Zod]

mrpurple said:

Zod said:

Exactly. Of course it wasn't documented. That would have been heavy-handed. It was a question of asking him to confirm something, his confirming it and the breaking his word.

Fair enough I suppose.... so what chance is there that we are going to get this straightforward IN / OUT referendum?

You tell me - depends on the election result. If the Tories win and don't give us a referendum, I will eat humble pie here for all of you.

[sjn2004]

Zod said:

don4l said:

I can sort of understand where zod is coming from. New staff, in my business at least, are not productive for at least 6 months. During that they are getting paid. If they leave during this time, then they have cost you a lot of money.

Exactly. Of course it wasn't documented. That would have been heavy-handed. It was a question of asking him to confirm something, his confirming it and the breaking his word.

So he changed his mind?

Essentially what we have here is an anonymous keyboard warrior claiming to work for an anonymous law firm that apparently Mark Reckless worked for and with who he broke a verbal promise not to follow a political career?
I'd give your posts a weight of 500mcg in their current guise especially as your one of the most conspicuous CMD trumper blowers on PH.

Maybe you could tweet MR with your accusations and see what response you get?

[mrpurple]

Zod said:

mrpurple said:

Zod said:

Exactly. Of course it wasn't documented. That would have been heavy-handed. It was a question of asking him to confirm something, his confirming it and the breaking his word.

Fair enough I suppose.... so what chance is there that we are going to get this straightforward IN / OUT referendum?

You tell me - depends on the election result. If the Tories win and don't give us a referendum, I will eat humble pie here for all of you.

My guess is zero regardless of who wins...there that's you told then

[Zod]

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

[Zod]

sjn2004 said:

So he changed his mind?

Essentially what we have here is an anonymous keyboard warrior claiming to work for an anonymous law firm that apparently Mark Reckless worked for and with who he broke a verbal promise not to follow a political career?

It's not very difficult to find out where he worked.

[Scuffers]

Zod said:

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

The way your going on, anybody would think you were married and he cheated on you......

[Zod]

Scuffers said:

Zod said:

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

The way your going on, anybody would think you were married and he cheated on you......

He would be very wary about entering into any correspondence about his time here.

[brenflys777]

Zod said:

Scuffers said:

Zod said:

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

The way your going on, anybody would think you were married and he cheated on you......

He would be very wary about entering into any correspondence about his time here.

Lucky these lawyer types know better than to make unsubstantiated claims about someone... I don't know him or you but I can see actions. Reckless didn't have to go for a by election and give his voters the chance to endorse his decision. He says he's acted out of conviction and he's backed that claim up with the election.

Cameron has said he'll give us a referendum after a negotiation. He's had four years to start a negotiation - he can show us nothing. He says we'll get a referendum - again nothing accomplished in deed, just words.

[FiF]

brenflys777 said:

Zod said:

Scuffers said:

Zod said:

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

The way your going on, anybody would think you were married and he cheated on you......

He would be very wary about entering into any correspondence about his time here.

Lucky these lawyer types know better than to make unsubstantiated claims about someone... I don't know him or you but I can see actions. Reckless didn't have to go for a by election and give his voters the chance to endorse his decision. He says he's acted out of conviction and he's backed that claim up with the election.

Cameron has said he'll give us a referendum after a negotiation. He's had four years to start a negotiation - he can show us nothing. He says we'll get a referendum - again nothing accomplished in deed, just words.

In reality we have confirmation from the EU that they have heard nothing concrete from the UK concerning reform.

[sjn2004]

Zod said:

sjn2004 said:

So he changed his mind?

Essentially what we have here is an anonymous keyboard warrior claiming to work for an anonymous law firm that apparently Mark Reckless worked for and with who he broke a verbal promise not to follow a political career?

It's not very difficult to find out where he worked.

Looks like you are running away....

[Zod]

brenflys777 said:

Zod said:

Scuffers said:

Zod said:

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

The way your going on, anybody would think you were married and he cheated on you......

He would be very wary about entering into any correspondence about his time here.

Lucky these lawyer types know better than to make unsubstantiated claims about someone... I don't know him or you but I can see actions. Reckless didn't have to go for a by election and give his voters the chance to endorse his decision. He says he's acted out of conviction and he's backed that claim up with the election.

Cameron has said he'll give us a referendum after a negotiation. He's had four years to start a negotiation - he can show us nothing. He says we'll get a referendum - again nothing accomplished in deed, just words.

Obviously, I cannot give details of his employment record.Suffice to say, he is an unpleasant character.

[sjn2004]

Zod said:

brenflys777 said:

Zod said:

Scuffers said:

Zod said:

No, he didn't. He never had any intention of keeping his word.He never went to the Party and told them he was no longer seeking a seat. He behaved in the same way before he defected.

The way your going on, anybody would think you were married and he cheated on you......

He would be very wary about entering into any correspondence about his time here.

Lucky these lawyer types know better than to make unsubstantiated claims about someone... I don't know him or you but I can see actions. Reckless didn't have to go for a by election and give his voters the chance to endorse his decision. He says he's acted out of conviction and he's backed that claim up with the election.

Cameron has said he'll give us a referendum after a negotiation. He's had four years to start a negotiation - he can show us nothing. He says we'll get a referendum - again nothing accomplished in deed, just words.

Obviously, I cannot give details of his employment record.Suffice to say, he is an unpleasant character.

Zod, you know, your not really anonymous here. You make all these unsubstantiated claims and think you are hiding by not naming your company, it would take only a few minutes to track you down.

[AJS-]

That's really clutching at straws Zod. He reneged on a verbal assurance that he wouldn't go for a seat in parliament. After how long? Either way it's a real so what.

[johnxjsc1985]

WOW politician changes mind

[smegmore]

mrpurple said:

Fair enough I suppose.... so what chance is there that we are going to get this straightforward IN / OUT referendum?

[mrpurple]

smegmore said:

nicked