UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

[NicD]

league67 said:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/29/nick-griffin-...

Total shocker that he seems to share opinion on gays with Helmer, and probably with better part of kipperati. Not the cleverest bunch. At least Griffin didn't (that I know of) suggested cure.

are you out of your mind?

some one says he finds 'gays a little creepy' is a 'total shocker'. What about all the religious nuts who proclaim homosexuality a sin?

jeeze, man, grow up.

I myself rather like gays, but allow other people to express pretty mild opinions without being 'totally shocked'

[Einion Yrth]

NicD said:

I myself rather like gays

Strange comment; I like some, dislike others (can't stand that prick Mandelson for instance). At the end of the day they're just people.

[NicD]

Einion Yrth said:

NicD said:

I myself rather like gays

Strange comment; I like some, dislike others (can't stand that prick Mandelson for instance). At the end of the day they're just people.

agreed, but I didn't want some excitable 'anti' person twisting my words into something unrecognisable.

[FiF]

NicD said:

league67 said:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/29/nick-griffin-...

Total shocker that he seems to share opinion on gays with Helmer, and probably with better part of kipperati. Not the cleverest bunch. At least Griffin didn't (that I know of) suggested cure.

are you out of your mind?

some one says he finds 'gays a little creepy' is a 'total shocker'. What about all the religious nuts who proclaim homosexuality a sin?

jeeze, man, grow up.

I myself rather like gays, but allow other people to express pretty mild opinions without being 'totally shocked'

Unfortunately you have missed the main driving force which is to twist the smallest thing into a swipe.

The problem that league and a couple of others face is that even when they have something of value to say there are increasing numbers of people who see his name at the top of the post and immediately move on to the next post.

Not sure what the answer is. Clearly some create another profile and start again, some make a name change which isn't declared in their profile in the hope nobody notices.

Don't get wound up about it.

As for Griffin nobody with any sense will be taken in by his virtual presence. I say virtual as he's now an irrelevance just intent on mischief to salve some perceived injustice.

[NicD]

OK, back to the theme for this thread:

Eurosceptic claims 200 Tory MPs now favour a British exit from EU

Sir Bill Cash calls for nation to take 'associate status' – and no longer wants pact with Ukip
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/euro...

[jagnet]

Backbench campaign to bring back Grammar Schools

Breitbart said:

Influential backbench Conservatives are supporting a campaign to bring back grammar schools.
With surveys showing a majority of parents are in favour of reintroducing the schools, which select based on academic ability only, David Davies and Graham Brady are taking the challenge to the Prime Minister.

Now where have I seen that policy before?

[NicD]

This looks good!


Switzerland votes on ending mass immigration
The controversial Ecopop movement wants to slash the numbers entering the coutry from 80,000 a year to just 16,000

why cant we have a vote?



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swi...

[McWigglebum4th]

Could someone explain to me the following


I know i am a deeply racist person as i intend to vote UKIP

UKIP are a deeply racist party as they want to bring in a point based immigration system

The same kind of point based immigration system that is used in counties like Australia, Canada and new zealand use



Instead i should be a good little sheepie and vote tory

Once we have a nice tory government we can strive to be a truly multicultural society like Australia, Canada and new zealand

[NicD]

McWigglebum4th said:

Could someone explain to me the following


I know i am a deep]ly thinking, non racist person as i intend to vote UKIP

UKIP are a deeplythinking, non racist party as they want to bring in a point based immigration system

There, I have fixed that for you

[league67]

NicD said:

league67 said:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/29/nick-griffin-...

Total shocker that he seems to share opinion on gays with Helmer, and probably with better part of kipperati. Not the cleverest bunch. At least Griffin didn't (that I know of) suggested cure.

are you out of your mind?

some one says he finds 'gays a little creepy' is a 'total shocker'. What about all the religious nuts who proclaim homosexuality a sin?

jeeze, man, grow up.

I myself rather like gays, but allow other people to express pretty mild opinions without being 'totally shocked'

NicD,

Even by low kipper standards, you are exceptionally stupid.

You 'rather like gays'? Is that because they are gays? Do you say things like 'I myself rather like blacks'?

If you read, slowly and out loud, what I type, you'd, eventually, get that 'total shocker' was reference to Griffin sharing an opinion on gays with one of the 'leading Kipper lights', the man responsible for kipperesonic energy policy, the straight talking Helmer. Getting back to the fact that you are so painfully stupid that you can't even get that, nobody is 'totally shocked' that people like Griffin and Helmer find gays creepy and want to cure them. Two faces of the same coin.

But don't you worry, self appointed defender of Kipper modesty was there to lend you his support. Between trawling internet to find any article about the greatest religion of our times, to uncover latest and greatest conspiracy against The Only True Faith, he finds time to lend his support.

[FiF]

Obviously I have upset league.


Eeeexcellent Smithers.

[TKF]

Mermaid said:

mrdemon said:

TheRealFingers99 said:

Er, UK citizens?

you think any one of those people were born in the UK then ?

You don't think so?

mrdemon perhaps you can expand on this?

What makes you think that the people in the picture are not UK citizens born here?

[brenflys777]

Interestingly, Philip Davies MP has been retweeting all the abuse he has had from fellow conservatives. Philip Davies voiced his displeasure at the broken promise of the immigration figures in the House of Commons and has acted in good conscience. He wasn't rude or abusive but has been very cross that the conservatives including him campaigned on action but delivered nothing.

Lots of the party faithful complaining that he should keep quiet for the sake of the party even if it's true, a legion of abusive descriptions and quite a few saying if he believes what he said he should be ejected from the party and go to UKIP.

Two things struck me. Firstly he's pissing off the right people. Secondly, the conservatives may have little chance of reform because they still don't get it. Philip Davies' honesty shouldn't be derided, it should be standard.

[WinstonWolf]

FiF said:

Obviously I have upset league.


Eeeexcellent Smithers.

He's exceptionally mature, he'll ignore you soon such is his intellectual superiority.

[FiF]

WinstonWolf said:

FiF said:

Obviously I have upset league.


Eeeexcellent Smithers.

He's exceptionally mature, he'll ignore you soon such is his intellectual superiority.

I'm sure there's a spare ignore button meme knocking about that someone could lend him.

[steveT350C]

"David Cameron faces a huge ­rebellion by more than 200 of his own MPs who want us out of the ­European Union.

Party veteran Sir Bill Cash has warned that at least two thirds of the 303 Conservatives in the Commons now want to leave."

http://linkis.com/mirr.im/k13iS

[NicD]

league67 said:

NicD said:

league67 said:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/29/nick-griffin-...

Total shocker that he seems to share opinion on gays with Helmer, and probably with better part of kipperati. Not the cleverest bunch. At least Griffin didn't (that I know of) suggested cure.

are you out of your mind?

some one says he finds 'gays a little creepy' is a 'total shocker'. What about all the religious nuts who proclaim homosexuality a sin?

jeeze, man, grow up.

I myself rather like gays, but allow other people to express pretty mild opinions without being 'totally shocked'

NicD,

Even by low kipper standards, you are exceptionally stupid.

You 'rather like gays'? Is that because they are gays? Do you say things like 'I myself rather like blacks'?

If you read, slowly and out loud, what I type, you'd, eventually, get that 'total shocker' was reference to Griffin sharing an opinion on gays with one of the 'leading Kipper lights', the man responsible for kipperesonic energy policy, the straight talking Helmer. Getting back to the fact that you are so painfully stupid that you can't even get that, nobody is 'totally shocked' that people like Griffin and Helmer find gays creepy and want to cure them. Two faces of the same coin.

But don't you worry, self appointed defender of Kipper modesty was there to lend you his support. Between trawling internet to find any article about the greatest religion of our times, to uncover latest and greatest conspiracy against The Only True Faith, he finds time to lend his support.

being called 'exceptionally stupid' by you is probably a badge of honour amongst those who know you but I have taken your advice.

I have read what you wrote slowly and looked up the link again and still don't get your point.

please demonstrate my 'exceptional stupidity' rather than your own.

[HonestIago]

Ladbrokes currently offering the following UKIP vote share odds for the GE:

15-20% 9/4
20-25% 10/1
25%+ 14/1

If you hedge accordingly you can't lose as there is not a cat in hell's chance of them getting under 15% IMO

[XJ Flyer]

NicD said:

This looks good!


Switzerland votes on ending mass immigration
The controversial Ecopop movement wants to slash the numbers entering the coutry from 80,000 a year to just 16,000

why cant we have a vote?



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swi...

Because unlike Switzerland we are in the EU.However Switzerland's problem is that it has allowed itself to be dragged/blackmailed into what is effectively EU membership by caving into the threat EU trade sanctions against it.

That situation could be reversed if we were to leave the EU then join Switzerland again in EFTA being that we have the leverage of being in trade deficit with the EU.IE the EU needs us more than we need the EU.Which would be a game changer in smashing that EU blackmail situation regarding trade sanctions because they would be guaranteed to be the losers in trying the same stunt with us.

The big question is why the deafening silence from Farage regarding all that bearing in mind his supposed stance in being willing to take on the CBI as well as the EU.

[XJ Flyer]

steveT350C said:

"David Cameron faces a huge ­rebellion by more than 200 of his own MPs who want us out of the ­European Union.

Party veteran Sir Bill Cash has warned that at least two thirds of the 303 Conservatives in the Commons now want to leave."

http://linkis.com/mirr.im/k13iS

If that is the case why don't they call a leadership challenge to depose Cameron with a Eurosceptic leader like Davis.What are they waiting for because the longer they leave it the longer it will take to get us out.