UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

[jogon]

fatboy18 said:

Guam said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2856803/Fa...

Is anyone left in Poland or are the russians moving in?

No Eastern Europeans have claimed £5m on bogus student loans from dodgy UK eductation establishments.

[Esseesse]

fatboy18 said:

Guam said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2856803/Fa...

Is anyone left in Poland or are the russians moving in?

No we're moving in... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/112...

Preparing for someone else's war (again).

[jogon]

I

FiF said:

That may be part of the problem.

It's also somewhat disingenuous imo to blame it all on cyber- kippers. Cyber-nats were just the same and then there are the just generally nasty smart arses that trawl everywhere. All commentators and discussion places see them. Hence the frequently made observations about all parts of such as PH infected by these oiks who don't want to debate the issues but just engineer a situation to take a poke at someone.

Let's be clear there are times that certain individuals deserve a prodding for whatever reason, but it's getting worse and difficult to avoid being dragged in at times.

At times one can understand the reason for the DT to withdraw but their traffic WILL suffer.

Did anyone actually read the drivel that the likes of Hodges et al wrote? You got half way through the first paragraph before you realised it's the same old tripe rehashed over and over again. The comments brought some sanity to the place.

Never mind - http://www.breitbart.com/breitbart-london - no paywall and comment until your hearts content.

[fatboy18]

Esseesse said:

fatboy18 said:

Guam said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2856803/Fa...

Is anyone left in Poland or are the russians moving in?

No we're moving in... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/112...

Preparing for someone else's war (again).

Good God

[handpaper]

jogon said:

Did anyone actually read the drivel that the likes of Hodges et al wrote? You got half way through the first paragraph before you realised it's the same old tripe rehashed over and over again. The comments brought some sanity to the place.

Never mind - http://www.breitbart.com/breitbart-london - no paywall and comment until your hearts content.

I'm glad it's there and I do post (mctruck), but the loon quotient is even higher than Telegraph Blogs was. Has a serious echo chamber problem, too.
This is by far a more civilised and balanced place

[WinstonWolf]

Guam said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2857181/Po...

If that is true things are about to get really interesting

If he is willing to fund the cost of Poles receiving benefits to the same level as Brits I say bring it on

He won't.

[FiF]

WinstonWolf said:

Guam said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2857181/Po...

If that is true things are about to get really interesting

If he is willing to fund the cost of Poles receiving benefits to the same level as Brits I say bring it on

He won't.

Let's say, for the sake of discussion, that the EU were to split into groups based on their economies in order to minimise the disparity between top and bottom economies that we see today.

If Poland were to find itself in the same position in its group that Germany and UK are in the EU, would his position change?

Like a shot it would.

Also please remember the mountains of gold threat by the Poles in relation to treaty change.

Clearly they want to kill golden geese.

[Esseesse]

Guam said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2857181/Po...

If that is true things are about to get really interesting

As it happens, making our natives work for x years before they're entitled to certain benefits appeals to me.

However I'm happy for Cameron to get stuck in a difficult place like this and for UKIP to make political capital of it if it furthers the brexit cause... Of course it isn't right that in any area our parliament is not sovereign.

[FiF]

Survation poll in Thanet south. Not a particularly wonderful sample size.

Shows Labour would win tomorrow. Also suggests that it's not UKIP stuffing the Tory vote but arguably the other way round and handing it to Labour.

Also shows Cons are not going to get UKIP voters back. 70 odd % of them wouldn't vote Tory even if their party didn't stand.


http://survation.com/new-constituency-polling-in-s...

[XJ Flyer]

FiF said:

http://survation.com/new-constituency-polling-in-s...

If the Cons were honest they'd prefer to see a 'Labour' government than UKIP holding the balance of power in a UKIP/Conservative alliance.

IE support for EU membership and the status quo of social security top up payments,rationed NHS and swathes of urban development to house the low paid and immigrant workforce.All of which fits in perfectly with the Con ideology of a low wage economy to keep a few at the top rich.

[steveT350C]

Anyone see the Leaders live debate?

I missed it, started 5:30pm. You can watch it here, skip to 38mins

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/leaders-live-uk...

[Scuffers]

Yup, its unreal!

Where did they get this lot from?

Love the black guy, he's the vice president of the nus apparently?

[Esseesse]

steveT350C said:

Anyone see the Leaders live debate?

I missed it, started 5:30pm. You can watch it here, skip to 38mins

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/leaders-live-uk...

I've watched this now. Farage spoke clearly and dealt with the (suspiciously hostile) audience well.

[steveT350C]

Esseesse said:

steveT350C said:

Anyone see the Leaders live debate?

I missed it, started 5:30pm. You can watch it here, skip to 38mins

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/leaders-live-uk...

I've watched this now. Farage spoke clearly and dealt with the (suspiciously hostile) audience well.

At least two of the audience suffering from severe ant-UKIP verbal diarrhea.

Twitter suggesting a Guardian journalist plant, maybe two. Nothing confirmed yet.

Farage kept his cool despite strong provocation.

[don4l]

steveT350C said:

Esseesse said:

steveT350C said:

Anyone see the Leaders live debate?

I missed it, started 5:30pm. You can watch it here, skip to 38mins

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/leaders-live-uk...

I've watched this now. Farage spoke clearly and dealt with the (suspiciously hostile) audience well.

At least two of the audience suffering from severe ant-UKIP verbal diarrhea.

Twitter suggesting a Guardian journalist plant, maybe two. Nothing confirmed yet.

Farage kept his cool despite strong provocation.

I must say that Farage did a brilliant job.

The audience were even more biased than a Question Time audience.

I am gobsmacked that Nigel managed to keep his cool. I would have accused a couple of them of being liars.

It was nice to see that about 70% of the votes were in support of Nigel.

[mrpurple]

don4l said:

steveT350C said:

Esseesse said:

steveT350C said:

Anyone see the Leaders live debate?

I missed it, started 5:30pm. You can watch it here, skip to 38mins

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/leaders-live-uk...

I've watched this now. Farage spoke clearly and dealt with the (suspiciously hostile) audience well.

At least two of the audience suffering from severe ant-UKIP verbal diarrhea.

Twitter suggesting a Guardian journalist plant, maybe two. Nothing confirmed yet.

Farage kept his cool despite strong provocation.

I must say that Farage did a brilliant job.

The audience were even more biased than a Question Time audience.

I am gobsmacked that Nigel managed to keep his cool. I would have accused a couple of them of being liars.

It was nice to see that about 70% of the votes were in support of Nigel.

Not a lot to add except I hope all the leaders get treated in exactly the same manner and they give the same straight, simple answers as he clearly did.

[BGARK]

the yoot of today giving a well thought out and coherent argument:

http://youtu.be/vaMt-Gq-ikQ?t=59m30s

[NicD]

don4l said:

I must say that Farage did a brilliant job.

The audience were even more biased than a Question Time audience.

I am gobsmacked that Nigel managed to keep his cool. I would have accused a couple of them of being liars.

It was nice to see that about 70% of the votes were in support of Nigel.

I would not have the patience to deal with these young and ill informed types.

[steveT350C]

mrpurple said:

don4l said:

steveT350C said:

Esseesse said:

steveT350C said:

Anyone see the Leaders live debate?

I missed it, started 5:30pm. You can watch it here, skip to 38mins

http://www.itv.com/news/2014-12-02/leaders-live-uk...

I've watched this now. Farage spoke clearly and dealt with the (suspiciously hostile) audience well.

At least two of the audience suffering from severe ant-UKIP verbal diarrhea.

Twitter suggesting a Guardian journalist plant, maybe two. Nothing confirmed yet.

Farage kept his cool despite strong provocation.

I must say that Farage did a brilliant job.

The audience were even more biased than a Question Time audience.

I am gobsmacked that Nigel managed to keep his cool. I would have accused a couple of them of being liars.

It was nice to see that about 70% of the votes were in support of Nigel.

Not a lot to add except I hope all the leaders get treated in exactly the same manner and they give the same straight, simple answers as he clearly did.

Milliband up next. I expect he will be spoon fed questions that can be answered with...

"What we believe in is jobs. Jobs for hard working families. The cost of living, yes the cost of living, and the NHS, and jobs".

I hope I am wrong and he gets at least half the grilling Farage got, but I won't be holding my breath.

[BGARK]

don4l said:

It was nice to see that about 70% of the votes were in support of Nigel.

So why were the 70% not represented on the panel or on TV in general, for example Question Time etc.