UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

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steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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UKIP Wales Conference; 2 councillors announcing their defection to UKIP - Ex Plaid councillor Mohamed Sarul Islam and Newport Conservative Bill Routley. http://t.co/Yovep5W4wn

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Greg66 said:
He's not a troll, and the only person trying to weasel out is you.

The kipperati really don't like people who aren't prepared to play the "I'll blow smoke up your ass if you blow smoke up mine", do they?

Bunch of dittoheads, the lot of 'em.
is that it

Gaspode

4,167 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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BooHoo said:
You lefty tosspots can define indigenous any way you like, that won't change the fact that the vast majority of people know exactly what it means in this context.
The idea that anyone who doesn't agree with UKIP policies is a 'lefty tosspot' speaks volumes in itself.

But yes, I think you are absolutely right. The vast majority of people will know exactly what is meant when phrases like 'UKIP policies are for the indigenous people of the UK" are used, and I think the election results will demonstrate this understanding very well.

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Gaspode said:
But yes, I think you are absolutely right. The vast majority of people will know exactly what is meant when phrases like 'UKIP policies are for the indigenous people of the UK" are used, and I think the election results will demonstrate this understanding very well.
Let's hope so.

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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So the anti kippers seem to have accepted that flinging accusations of racism around willy nilly is not working (I don't think anyone has been accused of racism for a good few pages now) so have instead latched on to the word "indigenous", as if it has some sort of sinister undertone. The sheer desperation is palpable and quite amusing.

King Cnut

256 posts

114 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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BooHoo said:
This is so predictable, one of the offended will ask someone to define indigenous, followed by pages of hair-splitting.

You lefty tosspots can define indigenous any way you like, that won't change the fact that the vast majority of people know exactly what it means in this context.
Look up "indigenous" in any dictionary you choose and the meaning of what he said is absolutely unambiguous.

More important, it appears you agree with him.





Now here's the thing. Where are the self styled 'non-racists' who support UKIP? Why aren't they telling NicD that what he said is either de facto racist or that he should shut up until he understands exactly what he's said? I've quoted this statement about three times now and not one of the 'non-racists' has said a dickie bird. Not one person has censured him, and until you do you would appear to be condoning his views.

I don't care how many votes UKIP is or isn't going to get, I'm only interested in showing that UKIP happily tolerates support from people who are either a) so stupid they don't know what 'indigenous' means or b) self admittedly racist.

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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King said:
Look up "indigenous" in any dictionary you choose and the meaning of what he said is absolutely unambiguous.

More important, it appears you agree with him.





Now here's the thing. Where are the self styled 'non-racists' who support UKIP? Why aren't they telling NicD that what he said is either de facto racist or that he should shut up until he understands exactly what he's said? I've quoted this statement about three times now and not one of the 'non-racists' has said a dickie bird. Not one person has censured him, and until you do you would appear to be condoning his views.

I don't care how many votes UKIP is or isn't going to get, I'm only interested in showing that UKIP happily tolerates support from people who are either a) so stupid they don't know what 'indigenous' means or b) self admittedly racist.
See above. Surely you can do better than this?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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I must be missing something here because my understanding of what a government is there for is to govern the country for the people that live there,

Ie. The indigenous people of the country.

How is that racist?

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Scuffers said:
I must be missing something here because my understanding of what a government is there for is to govern the country for the people that live there,

Ie. The indigenous people of the country.

How is that racist?
It's not.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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King said:


I don't care how many votes UKIP is or isn't going to get, I'm only interested in showing that UKIP happily tolerates support from people who are either a) so stupid they don't know what 'indigenous' means or b) self admittedly racist.
The definition of indigenous would only matter in the case of a Party which intended to change the definition of nationality from one of jus soli to jus sanguinis.To my knowledge ( sadly ) that change isn't even on UKIP's radar or agenda.'If' it ever did make that change then the Italian definition of an 'indigenous' Italian would do just fine in also being the definition applied here.I'd say that anyone who views that definition of 'indigenous' as being 'racist' is just a supporter of the socialist/cheap labour agenda.I'd say that anyone being viewed as a racist by a socialist in that regard is a positive showing the good sense of the former and confirmation of the typical stupidity of the latter.


Edited by XJ Flyer on Saturday 6th December 17:35


Edited by XJ Flyer on Saturday 6th December 17:36

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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King , you are the only person who picked on NicD's use of the dreaded "I" word and despite your appeals for everyone to report him for racism no-one has done so.
Does that not suggest to you that the problem lies with you? Or is everyone else a racist-sympathiser who should look up to you for moral guidance/thought correction?

FiF

44,120 posts

252 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Well as I observed earlier on another thread (iirc) there is no such thing as an indigenous Briton. The Cornish qualify, I think, though not completely sure tbh.

So not quite sure what he, NicD, meant tbh.

Suspect his next sentence was better phrased by referring to the average person.

But the degree of focus on that single word is quite amusing and evidence of the desperation to engineer an argument.


King Cnut

256 posts

114 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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BooHoo said:
King , you are the only person who picked on NicD's use of the dreaded "I" word and despite your appeals for everyone to report him for racism no-one has done so.
Does that not suggest to you that the problem lies with you? Or is everyone else a racist-sympathiser who should look up to you for moral guidance/thought correction?
Sorry, I thought you said the use of indigenous in that context was completely innocent? Now you seem to be saying it was racist but it doesn't really matter.

Well, is it racist or not? You seem confused.

And I didn't ask anyone to report him (and I don't intend to either, it's far more fun watching him try to twist his way out of it). I asked people to take him to task.

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Greg66 said:
He's not a troll, and the only person trying to weasel out is you.

The kipperati really don't like people who aren't prepared to play the "I'll blow smoke up your ass if you blow smoke up mine", do they?

Bunch of dittoheads, the lot of 'em.
you can have your views about who is a troll, no matter how odd.

but now since you are the new big mouth here, justify this nasty and snide comment of yours:

'the only person trying to weasel out is you.'

I am not the one who misquoted and then tried to bluff their way out of it with further snide st.

and please translate the rest of your post into something understandable

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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FiF said:
Well as I observed earlier on another thread (iirc) there is no such thing as an indigenous Briton. The Cornish qualify, I think, though not completely sure tbh.

So not quite sure what he, NicD, meant tbh.

Suspect his next sentence was better phrased by referring to the average person.

But the degree of focus on that single word is quite amusing and evidence of the desperation to engineer an argument.
[typical lefty moron]What about dinosuars? amoeba? bacteria? primordial soup? you racist.[typical lefty moron/]

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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FiF said:
Well as I observed earlier on another thread (iirc) there is no such thing as an indigenous Briton. The Cornish qualify, I think, though not completely sure tbh.

So not quite sure what he, NicD, meant tbh.

Suspect his next sentence was better phrased by referring to the average person.

But the degree of focus on that single word is quite amusing and evidence of the desperation to engineer an argument.
Apparently, there is no completely accepted meaning for the word but I meant it as all the people who lived in the UK before the recent invasion.
That gives you lots to argue about.

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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King said:
BooHoo said:
King , you are the only person who picked on NicD's use of the dreaded "I" word and despite your appeals for everyone to report him for racism no-one has done so.
Does that not suggest to you that the problem lies with you? Or is everyone else a racist-sympathiser who should look up to you for moral guidance/thought correction?
Sorry, I thought you said the use of indigenous in that context was completely innocent? Now you seem to be saying it was racist but it doesn't really matter.

Well, is it racist or not? You seem confused.

And I didn't ask anyone to report him (and I don't intend to either, it's far more fun watching him try to twist his way out of it). I asked people to take him to task.
Are you mentally ill or just plain stupid? How the hell can you read my comment and then come to your conclusion? Don't bother answering because I have no further interest in anything you have to say, you ridiculous individual.

King Cnut

256 posts

114 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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BooHoo said:
King said:
BooHoo said:
King , you are the only person who picked on NicD's use of the dreaded "I" word and despite your appeals for everyone to report him for racism no-one has done so.
Does that not suggest to you that the problem lies with you? Or is everyone else a racist-sympathiser who should look up to you for moral guidance/thought correction?
Sorry, I thought you said the use of indigenous in that context was completely innocent? Now you seem to be saying it was racist but it doesn't really matter.

Well, is it racist or not? You seem confused.

And I didn't ask anyone to report him (and I don't intend to either, it's far more fun watching him try to twist his way out of it). I asked people to take him to task.
Are you mentally ill or just plain stupid? How the hell can you read my comment and then come to your conclusion? Don't bother answering because I have no further interest in anything you have to say, you ridiculous individual.
I bet you don't, it's probably an idigenous trait.

BooHoo

165 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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FFS, Do you think I'm a racist king ?

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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NicD said:
FiF said:
Well as I observed earlier on another thread (iirc) there is no such thing as an indigenous Briton. The Cornish qualify, I think, though not completely sure tbh.

So not quite sure what he, NicD, meant tbh.

Suspect his next sentence was better phrased by referring to the average person.

But the degree of focus on that single word is quite amusing and evidence of the desperation to engineer an argument.
Apparently, there is no completely accepted meaning for the word but I meant it as all the people who lived in the UK before the recent invasion.
That gives you lots to argue about.
I made that a cut off date of about 1946 and their descendents.Then I got called a racist too.Welcome to the club.

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