UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

[Yazar]

Zod said:

None of you can actually say what result you think we will see in May or what you hope for

Results:
- Confirmation we are on the path leading to the demise of 2 party politics in UK (Libs don't count).
- UKIP to cement their status as a major party, and its remarkable achievement in having done so against almost universal derisory opposition from media/established parties. Thereby demonstrating that the electorate no longer follow what they are told, but via internet/social media etc are able to see through the lies such as 'don't vote Ukip, they are racist'.

Hope:
- Cameron quits/is ousted.
- EU referendum
- Clegg loses his seat!

[steveT350C]

Student voting intentions..

http://www.studentmoneysaver.co.uk/article/student...

and the UKIP student who will be standing against Clegg in the GE.

http://www.youngindependence.org.uk/ukip-students-...

[Gaspode]

Yazar said:

Hope:
- Cameron quits/is ousted.
- EU referendum

Getting both these seems hopelessly optimistic, given that they seem to be mutually exclusive?

Cameron will only quit if he loses, in which case he won't be leading the government. No other party has committed to an EU referendum to my knowledge.

[vonuber]

dandarez said:

I used the NHS last week.
My point of entry/use was the bloody hospital car park ...FREE? Cost me 2 quid as I was a min over two hours.

My need/delivery turned out to be a prescription ...once upon a fairy time it was free, once upon a time a charge was introduced a minimal 20p. Today £8.05p. FREE?

...

Anyway, FREE it is most certainly not anymore.

I use it regularly about every 2 - 3 months. It's not cost me any additional money at all - free parking, free prescriptions .

[MGJohn]

vonuber said:

dandarez said:

I used the NHS last week.
My point of entry/use was the bloody hospital car park ...FREE? Cost me 2 quid as I was a min over two hours.

My need/delivery turned out to be a prescription ...once upon a fairy time it was free, once upon a time a charge was introduced a minimal 20p. Today £8.05p. FREE?

...

Anyway, FREE it is most certainly not anymore.

I use it regularly about every 2 - 3 months. It's not cost me any additional money at all - free parking, free prescriptions.

Couple decades ago, Parking all day was allowed free in my local Hospital. Thing is, local city office workers would use it each working day leaving their cars for up to ten hours. That abuse by many meant charges were introduced. The charges are now the same for two minutes or two hours.... expensive.

Same old same old ... a few greedy selfish types spoiling it for the many. I bet every selfish man and woman abuse free parker voted Me, me, me Tory or even worse ... Labour ....

[Mojocvh]

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

YAWN-a reflex act of opening up mouth wide and inhaling deeply due to boredom.

Same old line.

None of you can actually say what result you think we will see in May or what you hope for (other than dandarez, who seems to think Farage will be PM).

Same old out of context quotation as well, why don't you follow other members advise and just go quiet?

[MGJohn]

Gaspode said:

Yazar said:

Hope:
- Cameron quits/is ousted.
- EU referendum

Getting both these seems hopelessly optimistic, given that they seem to be mutually exclusive?

Cameron will only quit if he loses, in which case he won't be leading the government. No other party has committed to an EU referendum to my knowledge.

Yes, very optimistic. So who would be a better choice to lead the Cons party?

The two EDs. Clegg and Cameron must have seen the Poll whereby 80% wanted OUT of the EU. Ignore that at our, not their peril ... there's the rub!

Desperate Dave will if elected find numerous further ways to delay a Referendum to appease his party's numerous vested interest paymasters. Thus enabling the Nation as a whole to benefit ... Yeah ... right ...

[dandarez]

vonuber said:

dandarez said:

I used the NHS last week.
My point of entry/use was the bloody hospital car park ...FREE? Cost me 2 quid as I was a min over two hours.

My need/delivery turned out to be a prescription ...once upon a fairy time it was free, once upon a time a charge was introduced a minimal 20p. Today £8.05p. FREE?

...

Anyway, FREE it is most certainly not anymore.

I use it regularly about every 2 - 3 months. It's not cost me any additional money at all - free parking, free prescriptions .

Well, don't just say that. Say HOW you manage that!
Retired? Disabled. Special dispensation, compensation? Etc...
You most certainly WON'T get it free, either of them - parking nor prescriptions without something along those lines.

Mind you, going to the GP or community hospital here in Witney has no parking charges plus we have a 8 floor Multi-storey car park free of charge parking.
BUT you can hardly call that the norm, can you?! In fact, today, it is about as rare as hen's teeth.

Go to any large hospital - show me one that doesn't have car park charging in force? ie their point of entry.

[Yazar]

Gaspode said:

No other party has committed to an EU referendum to my knowledge.

Greens support a referendum on the EU.

[Gaspode]

MGJohn said:

Yes, very optimistic. So who would be a better choice to lead the Cons party?

The two EDs. Clegg and Cameron must have seen the Poll whereby 80% wanted OUT of the EU. Ignore that at our, not their peril ... there's the rub!

Desperate Dave will if elected find numerous further ways to delay a Referendum to appease his party's numerous vested interest paymasters. Thus enabling the Nation as a whole to benefit ... Yeah ... right ...

You'll not convince me with that line of argument. I'm a committed Euro federalist, I want the UK to be a member of a Federal Europe, with a single central European bank and centralised control of the finances - ideally by the Germans. They should be in control of the economy, the French in charge of food, the Italians can do all the arty stuff. Britain should focus on the three things it does best: Finance, building high-end cars, and making proper Beer.

[Mojocvh]

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dandarez said:

vonuber said:

dandarez said:

I used the NHS last week.
My point of entry/use was the bloody hospital car park ...FREE? Cost me 2 quid as I was a min over two hours.

My need/delivery turned out to be a prescription ...once upon a fairy time it was free, once upon a time a charge was introduced a minimal 20p. Today £8.05p. FREE?

...

Anyway, FREE it is most certainly not anymore.

I use it regularly about every 2 - 3 months. It's not cost me any additional money at all - free parking, free prescriptions .

Well, don't just say that. Say HOW you manage that!
Retired? Disabled. Special dispensation, compensation? Etc...
You most certainly WON'T get it free, either of them - parking nor prescriptions without either.

Mind you, going to the GP or community hospital here in Witney has no parking charges plus we have a 8 floor Multi-storey car park free of charge parking.
BUT you can hardly call that the norm, can you?! In fact, today, it is about as rare as hen's teeth.

Go to any large hospital - show me one that doesn't have car park charging in force? ie their point of entry.

Good point about car park costs, one off is bad enough but if you have someone on a high dependency unit they can be in for weeks and it soon adds up..

[Zod]

Mojocvh said:

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

YAWN-a reflex act of opening up mouth wide and inhaling deeply due to boredom.

Same old line.

None of you can actually say what result you think we will see in May or what you hope for (other than dandarez, who seems to think Farage will be PM).

Same old out of context quotation as well, why don't you follow other members advise and just go quiet?

It's advice, not advise, and what your fellow Kippers say to me is not advice.

Some of you can't abide any criticism of your protest movement.

[dandarez]

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

YAWN-a reflex act of opening up mouth wide and inhaling deeply due to boredom.

Same old line.

None of you can actually say what result you think we will see in May or what you hope for (other than dandarez, who seems to think Farage will be PM).

I don't think even I've said that.
Mind you, I hope he isn't - looking at it from a sympathetic nature, because you would probably be needing urgent cardiac treatment and stretching the NHS even more if it did happen.

Second thoughts... at least your boring remarks would be halted.

[vonuber]

Prescription exemption and a motorbike.

[Zod]

dandarez said:

I don't think even I've said that.
Mind you, I hope he isn't - looking at it from a sympathetic nature, because you would probably be needing urgent cardiac treatment and stretching the NHS even more if it did happen.

Second thoughts... at least your boring remarks would be halted.

My heart is very healthy, but thanks for the concern.

[Mojocvh]

Gaspode said:

MGJohn said:

Yes, very optimistic. So who would be a better choice to lead the Cons party?

The two EDs. Clegg and Cameron must have seen the Poll whereby 80% wanted OUT of the EU. Ignore that at our, not their peril ... there's the rub!

Desperate Dave will if elected find numerous further ways to delay a Referendum to appease his party's numerous vested interest paymasters. Thus enabling the Nation as a whole to benefit ... Yeah ... right ...

You'll not convince me with that line of argument. I'm a committed Euro federalist, I want the UK to be a member of a Federal Europe, with a single central European bank and centralised control of the finances - ideally by the Germans. They should be in control of the economy, the French in charge of food, the Italians can do all the arty stuff. Britain should focus on the three things it does best: Finance, building high-end cars, and making proper Beer.

Thanks for pointing out the fallacy of continued EU membership, you're not a member of the SNP are you by any chance?

[dandarez]

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

Zod said:

Mojocvh said:

YAWN-a reflex act of opening up mouth wide and inhaling deeply due to boredom.

Same old line.

None of you can actually say what result you think we will see in May or what you hope for (other than dandarez, who seems to think Farage will be PM).

Same old out of context quotation as well, why don't you follow other members advise and just go quiet?

It's advice, not advise, and what your fellow Kippers say to me is not advice.

None of you likes any criticism of your protest movement.

What the hell do you mean? All UKIP and Kippers get is criticism. We don't mind it at all!
It's YOU and your ilk who mind.
You mind, and you do mind, because despite all the flack and criticism concentrated towards us/Ukip, nothing, but nothing so far has halted this 'protest movement'

...has it?

[Zod]

dandarez said:

What the hell do you mean? All UKIP and Kippers get is criticism. We don't mind it at all!
It's YOU and your ilk who mind.
You mind, and you do mind, because despite all the flack and criticism concentrated towards us/Ukip, nothing, but nothing so far has halted this 'protest movement'

...has it?

Well, yes. No growth in support in the last year. I'd call that a bit of a halt.

[dandarez]

Zod said:

dandarez said:

I don't think even I've said that.
Mind you, I hope he isn't - looking at it from a sympathetic nature, because you would probably be needing urgent cardiac treatment and stretching the NHS even more if it did happen.

Second thoughts... at least your boring remarks would be halted.

My heart is very healthy, but thanks for the concern.

That's ok. So's mine.

However, I wouldn't hold out that it will be on May 8th so book that check up now!

[dandarez]

Zod said:

dandarez said:

What the hell do you mean? All UKIP and Kippers get is criticism. We don't mind it at all!
It's YOU and your ilk who mind.
You mind, and you do mind, because despite all the flack and criticism concentrated towards us/Ukip, nothing, but nothing so far has halted this 'protest movement'

...has it?

Well, yes. No growth in support in the last year. I'd call that a bit of a halt.

That deserves my usual end sentence.

Wait and see!