UKIP - The Future - Volume 3
Discussion
jogon said:
Did you miss Dave Abu Cameron welcoming him with open arms yesterday? He'll fit in well with Warsi and the rest of their ilk.
Stay classy.Have you considered moving to France? I think you'd fit in better over there as they have an outwardly fascist political party with a modicum of grass roots support amongst the electorate.
zygalski said:
Stay classy.
Have you considered moving to France? I think you'd fit in better over there as they have an outwardly fascist political party with a modicum of grass roots support amongst the electorate.
No thanks they seem in an even worse situation that we are or have you missed the recent canary in the mine what with the recent Jewish mass exodus. You also have Germany's Pegida movement continue to gather pace. I am not the only one who thinks like this at home or abroad in the Western world. Have you considered moving to France? I think you'd fit in better over there as they have an outwardly fascist political party with a modicum of grass roots support amongst the electorate.
If people were really honest with themselves I would go as far as saying it would be the majority as was the case with public opinion on Enoch Powell at the time a mighty 74% but look what prevailed and the mess we now find ourselves in.
jogon said:
No thanks they seem in an even worse situation that we are or have you missed the recent canary in the mine what with the recent Jewish mass exodus. You also have Germany's Pegida movement continue to gather pace. I am not the only one who thinks like this at home or abroad in the Western world.
If people were really honest with themselves I would go as far as saying it would be the majority as was the case with public opinion on Enoch Powell at the time a mighty 74% but look what prevailed and the mess we now find ourselves in.
Jewish mass exodus? Really? Do show me some articles that demostrate there's been an exodus of Jews. If people were really honest with themselves I would go as far as saying it would be the majority as was the case with public opinion on Enoch Powell at the time a mighty 74% but look what prevailed and the mess we now find ourselves in.
Fortunately, people like you are the minority. There will always be groups of likeminded idiots though, in Germany (who knew the Germans could be bigoted eh?) and in this country. Happily there seem to be very few nowadays. Nonetheless the level of stupidity expressed never fails to amuse.
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-jewi...
Even the liberal mouthpiece C4 fail to paint a positive picture for Jews in France.
Even the liberal mouthpiece C4 fail to paint a positive picture for Jews in France.
jogon said:
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-jewi...
Even the liberal mouthpiece C4 fail to paint a positive picture for Jews in France.
In summary, no there isn't an exodus, but an increase in immigration.Even the liberal mouthpiece C4 fail to paint a positive picture for Jews in France.
NicD said:
it really doesn't matter but where in that report does it say this:
'He gave his interview announcing defection but it was not broadcast'?
I see this only:
'In an interview with the BBC carried out before the news of his suspension, he said controlled immigration and an EU referendum were "not achievable with UKIP".'
'BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said: "The Conservatives are standing by their new member - and say that in effect he defected when he met the prime minister.'
Well he is not really going to make those statements if he were staying in UKIP would he?'He gave his interview announcing defection but it was not broadcast'?
I see this only:
'In an interview with the BBC carried out before the news of his suspension, he said controlled immigration and an EU referendum were "not achievable with UKIP".'
'BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said: "The Conservatives are standing by their new member - and say that in effect he defected when he met the prime minister.'
But if you really want it explicit, try this one
"Speaking to the BBC before the announcement, the MEP revealed that he had decided to defect from the party to the Conservatives."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30967945
Any scrap of ambiguity left there?
jogon said:
968 said:
What? The part that demonstrated that you're a bigoted moron?
if you say so but we are all entitled to our opinions and I have witnessed nothing so far in my lifetime to change them. JustAnotherLogin said:
Well he is not really going to make those statements if he were staying in UKIP would he?
But if you really want it explicit, try this one
"Speaking to the BBC before the announcement, the MEP revealed that he had decided to defect from the party to the Conservatives."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30967945
Any scrap of ambiguity left there?
what time was that?But if you really want it explicit, try this one
"Speaking to the BBC before the announcement, the MEP revealed that he had decided to defect from the party to the Conservatives."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30967945
Any scrap of ambiguity left there?
not that it matters, the UKIP Twitter item is timestamped 10:10 AM - 24 Jan 2015
https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/559050614760824832
wc98 said:
if you are brought up in a culture where anyone in a position of authority employs family members regardless of ability ,and that position is used to generate wealth by any means ,it would be incredibly stupid to assume that would be any different because the people involved are now in the uk.
I haven't read the couple pages between now and this post, but isn't Farage doing pretty much this with his wife?Interesting article following on from Greek elections:
PFI is a classic example of the failings of the UK left: every party agrees these contracts were a rip-off – the coalition is still signing them, while fulminating about Labour’s track record; Labour thinks radicalism means admitting that perhaps they weren’t a good idea. Nigel Farage (again on Radio 5) said to my face that Ukip would “get hospitals out from under the yoke of PFI”. This means tearing up the contracts, doesn’t it? What else could it mean? There is only one other group in the country with an idea so radical, and that’s The People vs PFI.
Why would Labour never dare? Because when people call it anti-business, it hasn’t got the apparatus to cope. Farage dares partly, I think, because he has no intention of carrying it out; but also because, in a bizarre twist to the new multiparty politics, Ukip is often saying something similar to the Greens: business interests aren’t everything. That’s a reality that the majority feels, but that you never hear described; that’s how the Greens overtook the Liberal Democrats, while all eyes were on Ukip.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/...
PFI is a classic example of the failings of the UK left: every party agrees these contracts were a rip-off – the coalition is still signing them, while fulminating about Labour’s track record; Labour thinks radicalism means admitting that perhaps they weren’t a good idea. Nigel Farage (again on Radio 5) said to my face that Ukip would “get hospitals out from under the yoke of PFI”. This means tearing up the contracts, doesn’t it? What else could it mean? There is only one other group in the country with an idea so radical, and that’s The People vs PFI.
Why would Labour never dare? Because when people call it anti-business, it hasn’t got the apparatus to cope. Farage dares partly, I think, because he has no intention of carrying it out; but also because, in a bizarre twist to the new multiparty politics, Ukip is often saying something similar to the Greens: business interests aren’t everything. That’s a reality that the majority feels, but that you never hear described; that’s how the Greens overtook the Liberal Democrats, while all eyes were on Ukip.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/...
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