UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Scuffers said:
err... most of the planet are really not going to be interested in UK politics!

just how many UK residents are on c**tbook?
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/14/facebook-users-smartphone-tablet

Lots.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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that's almost unbelievably sad...


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Scuffers said:
steveT350C said:
About 1billion users, so admittedly voter turnout is rather poor
err... most of the planet are really not going to be interested in UK politics!

just how many UK residents are on c**tbook?
To judge from steve's post above, a higher proportion of facebook users are UKIP supporters, so perhaps you should be kinder to it.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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rofl

steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Not billions, just the West Midlands....

@UKIPWellingboro: Survation Poll shows UKIP now leading in the Midlands
UKIP 35.6%
CON 34.5%
LAB 26.4%
LIB DEM 3.0%
GREENS 0% (!)
Vote @UKIP Get @UKIP in W.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Are Ukip fielding a candidate again Peter Bone?


steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Scuffers said:
Are Ukip fielding a candidate again Peter Bone?
Not seen anything, will have a look.

They do have a student standing against Clegg

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Could be an interesting one, he has voiced sympathy towards UKIPs views, he called them a "good thing" too I believe, but said he'd never join them - which is fair enough.

Definitely an interesting one there.

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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steveT350C said:
They do have a student standing against Clegg
laugh Cracking move! I really can't wait for this election there is going to be some gloom looking faces that is for sure.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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jogon said:
steveT350C said:
They do have a student standing against Clegg
laugh Cracking move! I really can't wait for this election there is going to be some gloom looking faces that is for sure.
It would be poetic justice for the students...

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Scuffers said:
It would be poetic justice for the students...
Very large student population in Sheffield so should prove interesting. laugh

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Scuffers said:
It would be poetic justice for the students...
Agreed, it'd be hilarious, but I can't see them swinging to UKIP. I doubt they'll forget the tuition fees situation though, one way or another if it cost Clegg his seat I would piss my pants with laughter.

handpaper

1,296 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Scuffers said:
jogon said:
Axionknight said:
Got a source on this?
Sorry meant to link before - http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/29/bristol...
that's got to be actionable surely?
I asked this before, and research seems to back it up, political parties cannot sue for defamation.
One source states a convention that a group of more than 12 people cannot be libelled (as a group I would imagine, 12 named individuals could sue seperately). A person who is a member of a political party could claim that they had been defamed by association, but this is a) a bit tenuous and b) an admission that they are now embarrassed to be a member.

Yazar

1,476 posts

120 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Another uneducated, left behind, illiterate fool!

News said:
A Kingston University lecturer will stand for UKIP in next year's general election.

Pharmacy and chemistry principal lecturer doctor Nicholas Wood will stand for the Esher and Walton constituency in May.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNb7pR6BvuE

I always have a chuckle at this one, "My God isn't that awful?", rofl

JustAnotherLogin

1,127 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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steveT350C said:
Not billions, just the West Midlands....

@UKIPWellingboro: Survation Poll shows UKIP now leading in the Midlands
UKIP 35.6%
CON 34.5%
LAB 26.4%
LIB DEM 3.0%
GREENS 0% (!)
Vote @UKIP Get @UKIP in W.
And likely get a labour-snp-libdem govt

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/28/el...


JustAnotherLogin

1,127 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Having covered most of the others prevously (though I'm still not sure on the anwer to the question I asked re #3)

lets move to #9

9. Promoting a British identity, as opposed to failed multiculturalism

What do Kippers think that might involve? What is the "British Identity"?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Hardly UKIPs fault is it, if people decide to vote for them as they feel that they (UKIP) now represent their views more closely than any other mainstream party? Tory support has flocked towards UKIP, as I mentioned earlier. Their support is up from 3.1% at the 2010 election to around 15% now, they aren't all new voters, that is for sure, and Tory support looks to be down compared to the 2010 GE, where have these once Tory voters gone?

Well, many have gone to UKIP, and in response to this we have had scorn and rumours abound of comments about swivel eyed loons, and our estimable Tory Mayor of London, arguably the greatest City on Earth, suggesting UKIP defectors (many who are ex Tory supporters) are the sort of people who have sex with their vacuum cleaners.

Are you suggesting that people abandon their conviction and vote Tory to keep such a coalition out, despite feeling their views are no longer espoused by the Conservative party? I'm not able to call into account your conviction or willingness to stand up for what you believe - you're a smart man and obviously have conviction, but so do many others - and they feel their views are best represented elsewhere... Just like one of their own MPs, Peter Bone, who said the current Tory party has spent too much time and effort chasing the centre ground vote, thinking that the voters to the right of centre (many traditional Tory voters) would have no other choice but to vote Tory even if they held a more central position in the political spectrum as there was no alternative.

They were wrong.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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JustAnotherLogin said:
What do Kippers think that might involve? What is the "British Identity"?
Fish and chips and ten pints of Carling.

On a weeknight, silly

JustAnotherLogin

1,127 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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I am not saying any of those things. If you choose to do that then it is a democracy. I merely believe people should be honest about it, not least to themselves.

Steve had posted "vote UKIP, get UKIP" whereas in fact is that in reality you might get the odd UKIP MP but hand power to Labour and the SNP.

Though in fact even that poll has to be considered in the light that it was a Survation poll and Survation consistently attribute more support to UKIP than any other pollster. Why that should be and whether they are correct and the others wrong or vice versa I have no idea. Just a consideration
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