UKIP - The Future - Volume 3
Discussion
eharding said:
sjn2004 said:
Looks like the Tories have shot themselves in the foot in Rochester and Strood. Two councillors already jumped over to UKIP.
http://markreckless.com/2014/10/15/tory-stitch-up-...
http://markreckless.com/2014/10/15/tory-stitch-up-...
Christ - is Nigel shaking that one's hand or just checking he's got a pulse?
That being said, the poor old bloke is probably overjoyed to find he still qualifies for the 'Kipper Youth wing.
another myth busted
Funny, CMD never even bothered to visit Heywood and Middleton nor Cleggy for that matter.
Esseesse said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with black people.
I can honestly say she is one of the very few people I dislike with a passion........how dare she turn it into a "colour" issue...as the pro UKIP guy made clear..it's about CONTROLLED immigration regardless of any colour or race and she should hang her head in shame for her disgusting behaviour.https://twitter.com/camshrone/status/5228782069455...
Twitter said:
Sheppey Central (Swale) result: UKIP GAIN from Conservative.
UKIP - 58.4% (+42.7)
CON - 22.8% (-21.2)...
LAB - 16.9% (-15.2)
Not so far from Mr Reckless?UKIP - 58.4% (+42.7)
CON - 22.8% (-21.2)...
LAB - 16.9% (-15.2)
sjn2004 said:
Still not answered the question regarding the EU's suppression of democracy. I seem to remember they even decided who was going to lead Italy without a single vote being cast.
So we can't post a link twice now even though the initial one was a few pages back? In your posts you seemed to be totally unaware of the implications of the dissolution of the EEFD so I assumed you'd never clicked and absorbed the information. Maybe you read it the second time?
It's not fair to expect anyone to have to sort out the muddle in your head. So we can't post a link twice now even though the initial one was a few pages back? In your posts you seemed to be totally unaware of the implications of the dissolution of the EEFD so I assumed you'd never clicked and absorbed the information. Maybe you read it the second time?
The only question you've asked in the quote fest is "What more proof do we need of the EU not representing democracy?", which isn't the question you seem to think you've asked. The answer to your question is "lots, because what you' eg coughed up is no proof at all".
As far as I can see the only implication that matters to UKIP is that the EU money tap has been turned off. Your Hitler drivel was just that: drivel, and all the suppression of democracy crocodile tears are a fig leaf for "bawahwah we've lost our money!". Pretty sure UKIP MEPs still have their voices, don't they? And they are still MEPs, no? See: democracy thrives, and there're the UKIP MEPs, right at the heart of it.
Interesting bedfellows, those EEFD types, btw. Extreme right wingers to Greens with some miscellaneous oddbods thrown in for good measure. Still. Beggars can't be choosers when it comes to bedfellows.
Wombat3 said:
Esseesse said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with black people.
That woman is an idiot - does anyone (anywhere) take her seriously?Great comedy value sometimes though
sjn2004 said:
In the detail, we note that the 'Kippler Youth wing grew from 1700 last year, to 2500 this year - and that the NATs Generation YES would argue that they have better growth rates and overall numbers - hardly an inspiring example.Obviously, we don't have numbers for comparison for the equivalent Muslim Jihadi youth organisations, but in any event it's sad to see in all three cases any of these young, impressionable minds being poisoned and radicalised by political opportunists.
don4l said:
Esseesse said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with black people.
She has put on a bit of weight, hasn't she?Essesse - next week will probably have said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with fat black people.
Wombat3 said:
wc98 said:
Wombat3 said:
and everybody knows that what the root causes of that number are
yes, a pm who lied and failed to follow through on an election promise . you would need to be smoking crack to see it any other way. if the elected head of the uk parliament cannot make things happen,then maybe we should just get rid of all mp,s and let the eu run the country directly.
FFS, more spin than a tumble drier!
The root cause of EU immigration was Blair. The current UK gov't is bound (whether anyone likes it or not) by treaties and laws that Blair (and subsequently Brown) signed us up to. You can argue that this should have been addressed sooner by the current Gov't if you want but (a) the coalition agreement doesn't allow it (thanks Cleggy) and (b) there have been a few more pressing things to sort out before now.
They only thing the current government has contributed to net immigration is to sort out the economy such that even more people want to come here!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...
no ifs ,no buts
eharding said:
don4l said:
Esseesse said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with black people.
She has put on a bit of weight, hasn't she?Essesse - next week will probably have said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with fat black people.
don4l said:
eharding said:
don4l said:
Esseesse said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with black people.
She has put on a bit of weight, hasn't she?Essesse - next week will probably have said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with fat black people.
What she doesn't understand is that UKIP has undergone a metastasis - and now attacks anything and everything that *isn't* UKIP.
Where UKIP was once an unsightly mole on the face of British politics, it is now a particularly nasty type of cancer.
We need to kill it - because whilst cancers simply understand the imperative to grow, they have no empathy with the organism they exist within.
Such is UKIP.
Moving on from the rancid bile that has been puked out by all sides over the last few hours.
How and why do political parties struggle to get anti-politics?
http://sotonpolitics.org/2014/09/17/parties-and-an...
In summary the final paragraph from that link.
How and why do political parties struggle to get anti-politics?
http://sotonpolitics.org/2014/09/17/parties-and-an...
In summary the final paragraph from that link.
said:
None of the main parties get anti-politics. Perhaps some of the truths of anti-politics remain too hard for those working at the coalface of politics to hear. In certain respects this is understandable, party activists and leaders have committed their lives to participating in politics and must find it hard to empathise with those who see no benefit or virtue in politics. The first party leader or group of activists who really show an ability to understand the world from another’s perspective and then show a real capacity to shift the way they do politics might indeed reap a considerable reward in support. Each false dawn risks alienating the public further. There is little sense from the evidence about anti-politics that most citizens see the solution as them becoming more active, taking more decisions, sitting on more committees or taking part in referenda. There is some push for having more of say but the overwhelming sentiment is for a political leadership that is seen engaged, connected and responsive and not driven by spin, self-aggrandisement and connections with big business. People want a representative democracy that works. If a political party could show them how to get that it would be on to a winner.
eharding said:
That Diane Abbott, in her own typically blinkered way, doesn't really understand what UKIP has a problem with - just because they have a problem with her, she assumes the diva proposition that her particular community is the sole recipient of UKIP's spite, and flaps her gums appropriately.
What she doesn't understand is that UKIP has undergone a metastasis - and now attacks anything and everything that *isn't* UKIP.
Where UKIP was once an unsightly mole on the face of British politics, it is now a particularly nasty type of cancer.
We need to kill it - because whilst cancers simply understand the imperative to grow, they have no empathy with the organism they exist within.
Such is UKIP.
Please seek help. It is disturbing to think you have to fend for yourself. Even our broken NHS should find time to assist your mental issues.What she doesn't understand is that UKIP has undergone a metastasis - and now attacks anything and everything that *isn't* UKIP.
Where UKIP was once an unsightly mole on the face of British politics, it is now a particularly nasty type of cancer.
We need to kill it - because whilst cancers simply understand the imperative to grow, they have no empathy with the organism they exist within.
Such is UKIP.
mrpurple said:
Esseesse said:
Diane Abbott on This Week claiming that UKIP centres around having a problem with black people.
I can honestly say she is one of the very few people I dislike with a passion........how dare she turn it into a "colour" issue...as the pro UKIP guy made clear..it's about CONTROLLED immigration regardless of any colour or race and she should hang her head in shame for her disgusting behaviour.eharding said:
That Diane Abbott, in her own typically blinkered way, doesn't really understand what UKIP has a problem with - just because they have a problem with her, she assumes the diva proposition that her particular community is the sole recipient of UKIP's spite, and flaps her gums appropriately.
What she doesn't understand is that UKIP has undergone a metastasis - and now attacks anything and everything that *isn't* UKIP.
Where UKIP was once an unsightly mole on the face of British politics, it is now a particularly nasty type of cancer.
We need to kill it - because whilst cancers simply understand the imperative to grow, they have no empathy with the organism they exist within.
Such is UKIP.
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk/What she doesn't understand is that UKIP has undergone a metastasis - and now attacks anything and everything that *isn't* UKIP.
Where UKIP was once an unsightly mole on the face of British politics, it is now a particularly nasty type of cancer.
We need to kill it - because whilst cancers simply understand the imperative to grow, they have no empathy with the organism they exist within.
Such is UKIP.
Greg66 said:
I think I can a common thread there. It's elusive, but I'm fairly sure it's there.
What, exactly, are "British values" anyway? Is there is a list published anywhere?
UKIP are a party for proud British Nationalists. Obviously there are no similarities whatsoever to the British National Party & no former BNP supporter would ever dream of voting UKIP as the parties have absolutely nothing in common.What, exactly, are "British values" anyway? Is there is a list published anywhere?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/quiz/2014/may/...
zygalski said:
Greg66 said:
I think I can a common thread there. It's elusive, but I'm fairly sure it's there.
What, exactly, are "British values" anyway? Is there is a list published anywhere?
UKIP are a party for proud British Nationalists. Obviously there are no similarities whatsoever to the British National Party & no former BNP supporter would ever dream of voting UKIP as the parties have absolutely nothing in common.What, exactly, are "British values" anyway? Is there is a list published anywhere?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/quiz/2014/may/...
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