UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

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Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Einion Yrth said:
I'd have felt more tempted to feel sympathetic if he'd been caught stealing, say potatoes. But eleven hundred quids worth of vodka?
So he could make his own vodka?

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

113 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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What appears to be increasingly obvious is that UKIP are not as relevant in General Elections as they are in EU ones. They are nowhere near leading the narrative as they were in the EU elections and they don't appear to have anything interesting to say.

After the budget yesterday I'd put a decent wager on the Conservatives winning an outright majority or requiring a small amount out help, with UKIP having absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever.

Back to reality for Farage & Co.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Absolute tosh

Did you listen to the budget today?

Our economy's growing, exports are up, at the same time, EU is stagnating, economies are shrinking.

They are soon going to be in no economic position to demand anything, if we pull out, their downfall will accelerate, how are they then going to dictate terms?

They cannot afford a trade war, yes, it would be painful to us, but it would be catastrophic for them.
I agree with you that we should leave, however I don't believe our economy is in the shape Mr Osborne likes to make out it is.

https://woodfordfunds.com/budget-surplus-reality-c...

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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allergictocheese said:
What appears to be increasingly obvious is that UKIP are not as relevant in General Elections as they are in EU ones. They are nowhere near leading the narrative as they were in the EU elections and they don't appear to have anything interesting to say.

After the budget yesterday I'd put a decent wager on the Conservatives winning an outright majority or requiring a small amount out help, with UKIP having absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever.

Back to reality for Farage & Co.
Where you a sleep last week when Farage was trending Twitter and on every newspaper front page..

There is no narrative from any of the parties apart from the budget yesterday. The general mass seem more interested in what colour a dress is than anything LibLabCon have to say.

Bill

52,758 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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cookie118 said:
Mojocvh said:
But you spectacularly demonstrate your own prejudice by your inaction on others...

"you couldn't make this up"
I've never known an image with a swear word on it stay up?
yes If we miss any then there's a report button.


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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BGARK said:
Zod said:
we are likely to have to agree to at least some aspects of free movement of people.
So why don't we do that now with the rest of the world?
Is the rest of the world the EU? Have we been in a grouping like the EU, involving free movement, with other countries?


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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jogon said:
allergictocheese said:
What appears to be increasingly obvious is that UKIP are not as relevant in General Elections as they are in EU ones. They are nowhere near leading the narrative as they were in the EU elections and they don't appear to have anything interesting to say.

After the budget yesterday I'd put a decent wager on the Conservatives winning an outright majority or requiring a small amount out help, with UKIP having absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever.

Back to reality for Farage & Co.
Where you a sleep last week when Farage was trending Twitter and on every newspaper front page..

There is no narrative from any of the parties apart from the budget yesterday. The general mass seem more interested in what colour a dress is than anything LibLabCon have to say.
Because of the serialisation of his book in the Telegraph? All that has come out is that he wants to do a deal with the Tories and that he is in poor physical shape.

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Zod said:
Because of the serialisation of his book in the Telegraph? All that has come out is that he wants to do a deal with the Tories and that he is in poor physical shape.
Immigration, immigration, immigration. laugh

Bill

52,758 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Newspapers need filling, and a flamboyant character is always welcome when nothing else is happening.

BGARK

5,494 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Zod said:
Is the rest of the world the EU? Have we been in a grouping like the EU, involving free movement, with other countries?
Your point appears to be that it is fine for free movement of criminals, and people with zero skills but the free movement of people who can contribute and be useful (yes from outside of the EU) you don't want them here, a bit racist no?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Bill said:
Newspapers need filling, and a flamboyant character is always welcome when nothing else is happening.
nothing else happening?

what?

so I imagined the budget yesterday?

must also have imagined the Election in Israel?

Or the shooting in Tunisia?


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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BGARK said:
Zod said:
Is the rest of the world the EU? Have we been in a grouping like the EU, involving free movement, with other countries?
Your point appears to be that it is fine for free movement of criminals, and people with zero skills but the free movement of people who can contribute and be useful (yes from outside of the EU) you don't want them here, a bit racist no?
What?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Zod said:
BGARK said:
Your point appears to be that it is fine for free movement of criminals, and people with zero skills but the free movement of people who can contribute and be useful (yes from outside of the EU) you don't want them here, a bit racist no?
What?
it's not that hard to understand.

he is suggesting your racist because you're all for EU open doors but not to the rest of the world.

Bill

52,758 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Scuffers said:
nothing else happening?

what?

so I imagined the budget yesterday?

must also have imagined the Election in Israel?

Or the shooting in Tunisia?
That's this week. Last week NF was in the papers, this week there's some actual news.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Zod said:
BGARK said:
Your point appears to be that it is fine for free movement of criminals, and people with zero skills but the free movement of people who can contribute and be useful (yes from outside of the EU) you don't want them here, a bit racist no?
What?
it's not that hard to understand.

he is suggesting your racist because you're all for EU open doors but not to the rest of the world.
I made a point about my view on the outcome of negotiations of trade agreements and you and he decided that my making that point meant that I want unrestricted movement of people form the EU, but not elsewhere, so I am a racist.

His right and yours to think that, but it indicates that each of you is a moron.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Bill said:
That's this week. Last week NF was in the papers, this week there's some actual news.
Ah, OK.

So Clarkson was not on any front pages?


Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Bill said:
That's this week. Last week NF was in the papers, this week there's some actual news.
Ah, OK.

So Clarkson was not on any front pages?
Yes, indeed he was, more even than sickly Farage who really wants to do a deal with the Tories.

Bill

52,758 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Scuffers said:
Ah, OK.

So Clarkson was not on any front pages?
I'm not sure who got more column inches tbh.

BGARK

5,494 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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Zod said:
Scuffers said:
Zod said:
BGARK said:
Your point appears to be that it is fine for free movement of criminals, and people with zero skills but the free movement of people who can contribute and be useful (yes from outside of the EU) you don't want them here, a bit racist no?
What?
it's not that hard to understand.

he is suggesting your racist because you're all for EU open doors but not to the rest of the world.
I made a point about my view on the outcome of negotiations of trade agreements and you and he decided that my making that point meant that I want unrestricted movement of people form the EU, but not elsewhere, so I am a racist.

His right and yours to think that, but it indicates that each of you is a moron.
Funny how others understand but you cannot, who is the moron?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Thursday 19th March 2015
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BGARK said:
Zod said:
Scuffers said:
Zod said:
BGARK said:
Your point appears to be that it is fine for free movement of criminals, and people with zero skills but the free movement of people who can contribute and be useful (yes from outside of the EU) you don't want them here, a bit racist no?
What?
it's not that hard to understand.

he is suggesting your racist because you're all for EU open doors but not to the rest of the world.
I made a point about my view on the outcome of negotiations of trade agreements and you and he decided that my making that point meant that I want unrestricted movement of people form the EU, but not elsewhere, so I am a racist.

His right and yours to think that, but it indicates that each of you is a moron.
Funny how others understand but you cannot, who is the moron?
He's a lawyer; he misunderstands things for a living.

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