Bike thief drowns after cycling straight into harbour.
Discussion
WinstonWolf said:
CamMoreRon said:
WinstonWolf said:
CamMoreRon said:
Right.. and when a person values numbing themselves to the unrelenting s
tness of their life over securing their next meal, what does that say to you?
Well the whole judicial system is a joke anyway, isn't it? You commit crime due to no prospects, you go to prison for a bit, you come out and still have no prospects. Where's the motivation to do anything but carry on committing crime?
Exactly, he's better off dead using your logic.tness of their life over securing their next meal, what does that say to you? Well the whole judicial system is a joke anyway, isn't it? You commit crime due to no prospects, you go to prison for a bit, you come out and still have no prospects. Where's the motivation to do anything but carry on committing crime?
HTH.
dandarez said:
Yeah, and he made the wrong one.
I'd like more cash. Wouldn't we all. I could probably walk into a building soc. or bank and if I did it the once possibly get away with it, but I don't even take the chance because I realise, and KNOW, it's wrong. Hence I never make that sort of wrong choice.
Where would your thoughts be if this 'scum' had careered into, let's say (as it could be quite feasible) a young mother and a babe in a pram and the pram went over the quayside with him and the bike, and not only he drowns, but the babe too.
Still feel for him?
Oh. Yeah! Or.. imagine if the person he stole the bike off was actually a terrorist, and he wasn't riding a bike at all.. he was riding a BOMB! And when he fall off the quayside he landed in a boat full of school children! And the bike was also a paedophile! And the last thing anyone heard was "ALLAHU AKBAR!" as the terrorist, who was also a Romanian immigrant, or Hungarian or whatever, EXPLODED everything in the WORLD!!I'd like more cash. Wouldn't we all. I could probably walk into a building soc. or bank and if I did it the once possibly get away with it, but I don't even take the chance because I realise, and KNOW, it's wrong. Hence I never make that sort of wrong choice.
Where would your thoughts be if this 'scum' had careered into, let's say (as it could be quite feasible) a young mother and a babe in a pram and the pram went over the quayside with him and the bike, and not only he drowns, but the babe too.
Still feel for him?
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k me.. it's a good thing he was just a scumbag who drowned under a boat, right? We dodged a bullet there.CamMoreRon said:
Oh. Yeah! Or.. imagine if the person he stole the bike off was actually a terrorist, and he wasn't riding a bike at all.. he was riding a BOMB! And when he fall off the quayside he landed in a boat full of school children! And the bike was also a paedophile! And the last thing anyone heard was "ALLAHU AKBAR!" as the terrorist, who was also a Romanian immigrant, or Hungarian or whatever, EXPLODED everything in the WORLD!!
fk me.. it's a good thing he was just a scumbag who drowned under a boat, right? We dodged a bullet there.
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k me.. it's a good thing he was just a scumbag who drowned under a boat, right? We dodged a bullet there.Stranger things have happened!
Possibly.
9mm said:
rxtx said:
Only here would a bunch of people be glad someone died whilst committing a minor crime. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Spoken like a social worker.If you'd like a society where criminals die more regularly there's a few places to choose in the world. Maybe you'd prefer Iraq or Syria?
oyster said:
9mm said:
rxtx said:
Only here would a bunch of people be glad someone died whilst committing a minor crime. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Spoken like a social worker.If you'd like a society where criminals die more regularly there's a few places to choose in the world. Maybe you'd prefer Iraq or Syria?
oyster said:
Spoken like a normal human being.
If you'd like a society where criminals die more regularly there's a few places to choose in the world. Maybe you'd prefer Iraq or Syria?
Id like a society where they don't pander over the criminals and treat them as if they are the victimsIf you'd like a society where criminals die more regularly there's a few places to choose in the world. Maybe you'd prefer Iraq or Syria?
Have you actually been a victim of a violent crime? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone but if you had, I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving
dele said:
Id like a society where they don't pander over the criminals and treat them as if they are the victims
Have you actually been a victim of a violent crime? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone but if you had, I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving
I have. I'm plenty forgiving, that has nothing to do with what you're trying to call justice, instead of what it is - a sadistic power trip. Next excuse please.Have you actually been a victim of a violent crime? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone but if you had, I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving
Edited by paranoid airbag on Tuesday 14th October 15:02
dele said:
Id like a society where they don't pander over the criminals and treat them as if they are the victims
Have you actually been a victim of a violent crime? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone but if you had, I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving
I was assaulted in the street when I was at university. 4 men got out of a car holding metal chains and a lead pipe, and set about me. Beaten round the head with chains and then had the lead pipe smashed into my skull. Turned out it was a case of mistaken identity. So what, this sHave you actually been a victim of a violent crime? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone but if you had, I suspect you wouldn't be so forgiving
t happens. Hasn't affected me in the slightest.Had stuff stolen. Had a lovely CAAD MTB stolen from outside Brentford leisure centre. That was pretty much all I had in the world, that bike. Unemployed and skint, it was my onky transport. That really f
ked me off but again, after gaining a bit if perspective, st happens.Committed violent assaults myself. Again, s
t happens.So no, I don't think death is a suitable punishment in this instance, or that he deserved to die. Very few people 'deserve' to die. And let me ask; where does it become suitable in your world? A stolen malteser? A stolen packet of maltesers? A stepladder? Bicycle? Corporate theft? Because if theft is theft, regardless of background or circumstance, then a suitably draconian punishment should apply across the board.
As for the internet hardmen saying they would happily watch another human being drown? Like I said, fair enough (although I suspect you're talking b
ks. Only if you've watched someone die in front of you can you come out with that sort of crap). But like I said, people here have kids who will go off the rails one day. So just be prepared to happily accept the fact that maybe one day, in similar circumstances, someone would prefer to watch your kid drown than help him.I don't think many if any suggest dying is a suitable sentence for stealing a bike.
without knowing the lad and his track record we cant be sure this was his first offence .But lets face it there is an epidemic of "if I want it I will take it " with in a certain sector of our society so lets not pretend that these are all just unloved and misunderstood kids a lot of them are animals.
without knowing the lad and his track record we cant be sure this was his first offence .But lets face it there is an epidemic of "if I want it I will take it " with in a certain sector of our society so lets not pretend that these are all just unloved and misunderstood kids a lot of them are animals.
Joey Ramone said:
So no, I don't think death is a suitable punishment in this instance, or that he deserved to die.
But it's wasn't a punishment, and no he didn't deserve to die. But the fact is he stepped outside the law, did something stupid and created the ultimate consequence for himself. And most of us couldn't care less.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff