NUS refuse to condemn ISIS
Discussion
Symbolica said:
ATG said:
Opposing the motion because it was Islamophobic was retarded. It clearly wasn't Islamophobic. The motion contained a lot of anti-American silliness. Why anyone with more than 3mm of brain tissue would get involved in NUS politics, I can't imagine. Unless it is an elaborate piss take of course. My university's student union extracted itself from the NUS. Most sensible thing it ever did.
Southampton?Johnnytheboy said:
Symbolica said:
ATG said:
Opposing the motion because it was Islamophobic was retarded. It clearly wasn't Islamophobic. The motion contained a lot of anti-American silliness. Why anyone with more than 3mm of brain tissue would get involved in NUS politics, I can't imagine. Unless it is an elaborate piss take of course. My university's student union extracted itself from the NUS. Most sensible thing it ever did.
Southampton?Having said that the membership card was sometimes useful to get into other university bars.
RobinBanks said:
benjj said:
I enjoy the fact that these grubby hemp wearing 
s believe that what they think matters.
Even as a student these were my sentiments.s believe that what they think matters.I refused to be involved in Guild of Students things, let alone NUS.
t you not) you can't get into the main perk - the subsidised boozer.Is this a competition to see who was the most right-wing the earliest?
However, the NUS have long been a bunch of idiots. IME they don't serve students particularly well, students who like most of the population are disenfranchised from politics. Most of the NUS people are wannabe Labour careerists. No, that doesn't make them left wing, it makes them neo-liberal. This includes ones that are far left (SWP et al), many of whom don't stay that way for more than a few minutes after leaving studentry. The right and far-right are also fairly well represented, if not popular.
However, the NUS have long been a bunch of idiots. IME they don't serve students particularly well, students who like most of the population are disenfranchised from politics. Most of the NUS people are wannabe Labour careerists. No, that doesn't make them left wing, it makes them neo-liberal. This includes ones that are far left (SWP et al), many of whom don't stay that way for more than a few minutes after leaving studentry. The right and far-right are also fairly well represented, if not popular.
Digga said:
Only trouble was, as I found when I had my NUS card temporarily confiscated (for looking at a member of the Union bar staff the wrong way - seriously, I st you not) you can't get into the main perk - the subsidised boozer.
Luckily we had a separate card for that t you not) you can't get into the main perk - the subsidised boozer.
Now I think about it, I never remember much NUS affiliation. Maybe we weren't part of it.
BlackLabel said:
It appears this decision was led by the stop the war coalition/UAF types within the NUS NEC. At the forefront was black students’ officer Malia Bouattia and Labour councillor Aaron Kiely (who incidentally opposed the extradition of Abu Hamza on human right grounds and has shared a stage with some hardcore Islamists in the past). You just need to google their names or have a look at their twitter feed to see what kind of politics they are involved in.
Most Muslim students are probably as dissapointed over this as we are.
At least the Scottish NUS saw sense.
the irony meter must be off the scale here - a good old Jewish name supporting IS... tMost Muslim students are probably as dissapointed over this as we are.
At least the Scottish NUS saw sense.
t.Said it before thought that the NUS were a bunch of
s when I was @ uni 30ish years ago and (sad to say) things haven't changed in the slightest they're still a bunch of sEdited by irocfan on Thursday 16th October 13:05
I was at university during the eviction from Kuwait gulf war ... gulf war one or two depending on how you choose to count them. The student union advertised a debate on the war. It was the one and only time I witnessed student politics at first hand. Oh my. The Socialist Workers offered to protest in solidarity with their brothers and sisters in the Muslim Society whilst pointing out that there were fundamental ideological differences between their causes. The Muslim Society members mainly looked bemused and told them to do one. A few of their own loons started talking incoherently about the Crusades. The debate was just a cacophony of uninformed prejudice from all sides. It ended with some wild eyed loon trying to move a motion of no confidence in the organisers of the debate who by then was looking close to tears.
There was a lad in the same halls as Mrs Digga who we were friendly with, mainly because he & she were on the same course. He was a nice guy, but very earnest and was active to some extent with Socialist Worker - I remember he was from a mining area, if not also a mining family - and the like.
When SW ran their anti-pole tax campaign his room door was, predictably, adorned with one of their "POLL TAX! Can't pay! Won't Pay!" stickers, which someone defaced to read "Can pay, will pay double". (TBF I think he saw the funny side, because he left it in situ.)
When SW ran their anti-pole tax campaign his room door was, predictably, adorned with one of their "POLL TAX! Can't pay! Won't Pay!" stickers, which someone defaced to read "Can pay, will pay double". (TBF I think he saw the funny side, because he left it in situ.)
Beati Dogu said:
That's the only reason to join. Otherwise it's a jolly for wannabe Labour politicians while they try to flog you overpriced Endsleigh Insurance.
Like everyone i joined the students uni when i started in 1996. Oddly, a few weeks later i got a welcome pack and membertship card from the labour party. Very odd, but at the time, and being naieve. I thouhg all students would vote labour. to y. Blair was going to save is all afterall.Fast forward to te inteuction of student fees, I asked what they were going to do about it. Nothing, they said.
Now the Oxford Unite Against Fascism student group are trying to stop Tommy Robinson speaking at an Oxford Union event because it would be Islamophobic. Funnily enough there is no record of a similar campaign by this group when a preacher who was banned from entering this country due to his extremist views addressed the Oxford Union.
Why is the taxpayer still funding groups such as UAF given their questionable behaviour?
Why is the taxpayer still funding groups such as UAF given their questionable behaviour?
Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 17th October 19:27
Tab said:
Birmingham student Bouattia says she plans to put forward another motion in the next meeting to condemn ISIS that “will in no way pander to Western imperialistic intervention or the demonisation of Muslim peoples.”
She's playing "my clique is bigger than yours."Although I'm not sure how Saddam's government was sectarian (1st NEC belief).
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