The peado finder general appointment

[rohrl]

According to today's Sunday Times Baroness Helena Kennedy was offered the job before Woolf and turned it down. I'm not surprised really, it seems like a poisoned chalice for whoever takes it.

[Camoradi]

Possibly not the exact subject of this thread, but the forum search didn't turn up a thread about the VIP paedophile network allegations

This is quite shocking listening. It seems met. police have some new leads and are pursuing them

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30052726

[carinaman]

Camoradi said:

Possibly not the exact subject of this thread, but the forum search didn't turn up a thread about the VIP paedophile network allegations

I know what you mean about which thread to put it in. Derek Smith, former police officer wondered whether the Daily Mail were going the correct way with raking over PIE and the NCCL backing.

Some have said it's odd how the media are making much about grooming gangs of a certain ethnicity while seeming to be reluctant to look child sex allegations about those in the establishment.

I suppose another reason for not allowing such allegations to go unheard is those in power do seem to like having paedophiles as bogey men to justify their intrusive snooping and foster a guilty until proven innocent mindset.

The establishment can't really use paedophiles as bogeymen if they have them in their own ranks.

We need the Snooper's Charter to protect the public from paedophiles and terrorists? The 7 July bombers were known about. One, or both of the killers of Drummer Lee Rigby were known about. The police have recently announced that they can't pursue 50,000 online child sex image leads as they don't have the resources and it's not clear cut to prove who was using the computers and credit cards at the time.

[dudleybloke]

Dolphin square in the news again.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-watched-tor...

Edited by dudleybloke on Sunday 16th November 12:48

[carinaman]

Update on finding a Chair 16 minutes in:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04v328m

[Thorodin]

HomSec now accepts Statutory status necessary, can compel witnesses to attend and give evidence under oath?

[carinaman]

Thorodin said:

HomSec now accepts Statutory status necessary, can compel witnesses to attend and give evidence under oath?

As I heard it they may be looking to increase the authority or powers to compel people to attend.

We all need to write to our MPs or someone will do a change.org petition to help push that?

The Melanie Shaw Operation Daybreak whistle blower I've referred to in the Cyril Smith thread, it seems Notts. City council was compensating people that had been abused in care as children until a Judge put a stop to it. But that report said that the Govt. have now found £2 Million to help support victims? Perhaps that means in terms of environment and counselling rather than compensation?

[Thorodin]

[quote=carinaman]

As I heard it they may be looking to increase the authority or powers to compel people to attend.

We all need to write to our MPs or someone will do a change.org petition to help push that?

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Bearing in mind what happened to damning historical dossiers given to gov. ministers for safe-keeping, I'm afraid I have no faith in any on-line petition which may reach the threshold of support. Much to easy to disqualify. Two reasons to bin it: no votes in it, on a 'technicality'. There are one or two more. The best way for a petition is to make it a requirement of electoral support at a local Gen.Ele. Followed by a recall of the MP if not adequately promoted.

[carinaman]

So the QC guiding the panel suggested that they all spoke with one voice to MPs?

I am not sure how that compares to the Home Office writing Dame Fiona Woolf's letters about her relationship with the Brittan's given she was 'independent'?

There's a one third chance that the Inquiry will be dropped? I guess to be replaced with something more substantial with bigger and sharper teeth?

Seems Notts. police have been all over Melanie Shaw Operation Daybreak whistle blower already this year. I wonder how her treatment compares to the vicious and dirty prosecution taken against former police officer Joanne Mjadzelics?

[dudleybloke]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913138/Fo...

[carinaman]

Theresa May says the contents of a file on unnatural sex in Westminster handed to the Thatcher government will be investigated Sky news website Thursday 22 January 2015 said:

Mrs May set up the inquiry in July to find out whether public bodies had neglected or covered up allegations of child sex abuse in the wake of claims there was a Westminster paedophile ring in the 1980s.

However, the first two people appointed to chair the inquiry resigned because of links to political figures of the time.

She said a new chairman would be announced at the end of the month as would the model of the inquiry - either a Royal Commission or a statutory inquiry - both would have full access to evidence.

from: http://news.sky.com/story/1412894/may-unnatural-se...

[Tonsko]

Amusingly, that link to sky news about the story will probably be blocked with their new filters.

[El Guapo]

If the decision was mine I would look outside the UK for an enquiry chairman, a respected individual from Canada or Australia, maybe, with no Westminster associations.

[Yazar]

A bit strange that they have today appointed a judge all the way from New Zealand

Perhaps our establishment are hoping it will be harder for our press to investigate her background for any conflict of interest.

[julianm]

I think it`s still about 1968 in New Zealand, so I hope she brings with her a refreshingly old fashioned unsympathetic Antipodean attitude towards the perpetrators.

[carinaman]

Let's hope they're better than the person that walked away from Rotherham and got a job in Australia:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/labor-backs-down...

But Ched Evans isn't allowed out of the country on licence? He wasn't a Councillor in Rotherham was he.

[Thorodin]

Lowell Goddard has a history almost entirely in her native NZ and has impeccable Maori lineage. With several notable achievements to her credit she seems ideally qualified for the job. Establishment, yes, but not as we know it. Hopefully.

[anonymous-user]

Appointing a member of the generally high quality New Zealand judiciary is a very good idea, as she will have independence but also sufficient familiarity with a civic and legal culture broadly similar to that of New Zealand. The idea that the press won't be able to check her background is just daft. New Zealand is a modern, open democracy, and Kiwis even have, gasp, newspapers and the internet.

[MarshPhantom]

They had to go all the way to New Zealand to find someone who wasn't involved?

[Thorodin]

It's just about as far as you can get away from UK. Other than the moon.