Tories the future (part1)

[BlackLabel]

Great speech from Ruth Davidson today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapQhpxLlA0

She deserves a bigger (Westminster) role within the Tory party imo.

[Axionknight]

Breadvan72 said:

[hidetheelephants]

Esseesse said:

This morning I hear Cameron thinks we need a house building 'crusade'. How is this in any way conservative?

So enamoured of his actual crusades in Libya, Afghanistan and Calais, he now wants to franchise all government policy as a crusade? I'm getting a lot of noise on Facebook about Duncan Smith being evil and starving children by capping child benefit; it doesn't come in until 2017 and isn't retrospective; in future anyone who cannot master the art of either absention or contraception after the first two 'mistakes' deserves to be out of pocket.

[turbobloke]

Axionknight said:

Breadvan72 said:

Bring on the parable of the 5 cans of Stella and 2 packets of Marlboro.

The Word of TJC was walking in Edinburgh in 2013.

The Guardiam said:

Tenants applying for a discretionary housing payment are asked to detail how much they spend on "luxuries" such as TV, drink and mobile phones. If it is thought to be too much, they don't get help to pay the rent.

[CorbynForTheBin]

Breadvan72 said:

Praise be!

[BlackLabel]

Things are not looking good for Crown Prince George.

Tory membership warms to Brexit Boris

[hidetheelephants]

IDS' replacement is supposed to have suddenly become some kind of Tory great white hope, on account of him being neither posh nor an Eton alumnus. That's the kind of weight of expectation that made William Hague go bald.

[glazbagun]

Isn't he already up to his neck in slime from the expenses/amP second home scandal? So long as Osbourne stays I think they're stuck with the "yes, we actually do hate poor people" tag. He looks quite isolated now.

It's quite amazing to think the Tories would let Europe tear then apart again after the wilderness it sent them to before.

Corbyn got a lot of stick for not putting the boot in like he could have, but I reckon he's probably looking on in stunned disbelief, afraid to say anything lest he introduce some unity into the Tories- never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake, etc.

[Adam Ansel]

The Blairite faction within the Conservative party are finished now. Cameron will be out this year whatever the referendum result. And it is his fault for fighting dirty in the EU debate. That shocked the party.
Gove is the new Keith Joseph, the intellect behind most Conservative thought. So expect a lot of Blairism to be thrown out. I can see the foreign aid budget and HS2 both being stopped and Boris Island getting the green light. The party has four years to get united behind a new and better set of policies. The party out in the country is right behind that. Cameron was trying to emasculate their power and influence so he is not liked any more.

Sajid Javid will replace Osborne. Our first Muslim Chancellor.

[hidetheelephants]

Your comment is contradictory; Javid is a Cameroon, albeit quite a flip-floppy one(although flip-floppyness is quite Cameroonian, so perhaps it makes sense?).

Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 22 March 15:44

[Adam Ansel]

hidetheelephants said:

Your comment is contradictory; Javid is a Cameroon, albeit quite a flip-floppy one(although flip-floppyness is quite Cameroonian, so perhaps it makes sense?).

Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 22 March 15:44

Sajid has expressed very strong Euroceptic opinions on many occasions. However his political mentor is George Osborne. Over the last few weeks Sajid has been sitting studiously on the fence.

[hidetheelephants]

Either way there's bloodletting afoot, this is not over by a long stretch and Cameron doesn't appear to have the mettle to deal with it.

[anonymous-user]

Adam Ansel said:

Gove is the new Keith Joseph, the intellect behind most Conservative thought.

Is this actually true? Is Gove really some towering intellect and massive influence behind the scenes?

I had presumed he had just got some mates in the media to plant that myth.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 22 March 16:03

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 22 March 16:04

[crankedup]

Meanwhile who is Governing and leading the Country.

[don4l]

crankedup said:

Meanwhile who is Governing and leading the Country.

As long as it isn't Clegg or Corbyn, I am not too bothered.

[anonymous-user]

Keith Joseph and Michael Gove both call to mind the Spinal Tap line about the fine line between clever and stupid.

[anonymous-user]

Breadvan72 said:

Keith Joseph and Michael Gove both call to mind the Spinal Tap line about the fine line between clever and stupid.

If Michael Gove is the intellectual eminence grise of the new Tory party then they really do have problems.

[mjb1]

crankedup said:

Meanwhile who is Governing and leading the Country.

The SNP?

[Esseesse]

John Redwood: Managing the Conservative party

[Adam Ansel]

desolate said:

Is this actually true? Is Gove really some towering intellect and massive influence behind the scenes?

I had presumed he had just got some mates in the media to plant that myth.

Edited by desolate on Tuesday 22 March 16:03

Edited by desolate on Tuesday 22 March 16:04

There are some in Westminster who think that only by making Gove deputy PM can the current crisis be defused.