Tories the future (part1)
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AJS- said:
brenflys777 said:
AJS- said:
William Rees Mogg - the honourable member for 1952.
I actually like Rees Mogg, when he talks seriously about things he is often very perceptive and thoughtful.... I can only put that video down to his dry sense of self deprecating humour Esseesse said:
AJS- said:
brenflys777 said:
AJS- said:
William Rees Mogg - the honourable member for 1952.
I actually like Rees Mogg, when he talks seriously about things he is often very perceptive and thoughtful.... I can only put that video down to his dry sense of self deprecating humour With Cameron negotiating we will probably end up paying £2.7bn and the numbers of immigrants will double..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...
He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...
He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.
jogon said:
With Cameron negotiating we will probably end up paying £2.7bn and the numbers of immigrants will double..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...
He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.
Wonder where Maggie's handbags are now? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...
He couldn't negotiate his way out of a wet paper bag.
mrpurple said:
Esseesse said:
AJS- said:
brenflys777 said:
AJS- said:
William Rees Mogg - the honourable member for 1952.
I actually like Rees Mogg, when he talks seriously about things he is often very perceptive and thoughtful.... I can only put that video down to his dry sense of self deprecating humour http://www.ukip.org/ukip_former_treasurer_to_mount...
mrpurple said:
mrpurple said:
Esseesse said:
AJS- said:
brenflys777 said:
AJS- said:
William Rees Mogg - the honourable member for 1952.
I actually like Rees Mogg, when he talks seriously about things he is often very perceptive and thoughtful.... I can only put that video down to his dry sense of self deprecating humour http://www.ukip.org/ukip_former_treasurer_to_mount...
Tory eurosceptics setting out their stalls to pressure Dave to draw some red lines in the sand when they lose Rochester and Strood.
No worries folks Wombat and Zod say it would be a bad plan.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/h...
No worries folks Wombat and Zod say it would be a bad plan.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/h...
brenflys777 said:
The conservatives might have set some of the hares running on Milliband's leadership, but after today the future can only be losing elections or losing the leadership team.
Do any Tories feel today has been a good day for them or the country?
I'm not a Tory but I do think it's been a good day for the country. Do any Tories feel today has been a good day for them or the country?
I think it has been a day when many people have seen very clearly what utter contempt Cameron and co have for us as tax payers and voters, and hopefully people will continue to abandon them in droves.
Pathetic figure Cameron. Don't agree with everything written but it's a right old rant.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen/2014/11/uk...
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/nick-cohen/2014/11/uk...
mrpurple said:
So will Dave face a vote of no confidence if the Tories get well beaten in Thursday’s by-election?
Don't think so.IMO the Tories have realised that this by-election is already lost and are now back home scratching their heads trying to work out who they can blame next. The RFU perhaps?
Then again, as a kipper, what would I know
mrpurple said:
So will Dave face a vote of no confidence if the Tories get well beaten in Thursday’s by-election?
Agree with above - noAgree with above on the basis that the tories won't want to appear too fragmented at this stage.
Whether the tories will become more to the right more anti Europe is debatable at this stage. Personally I think they want to be "liked" more than anything. I was a little surprised at the chancellors announcement this morning about something else. Something that I dare not mention as it involves other people whom it seems cannot be commented upon.
I need to go and get a plaster for this cut
Whilst this chap has done absolutely nothing wrong and has reported everything completely correctly in the book of members' interests, stuff like this just reinforces the public view that politicians are in it for self interest and there is a revolving door.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
FiF said:
Whilst this chap has done absolutely nothing wrong and has reported everything completely correctly in the book of members' interests, stuff like this just reinforces the public view that politicians are in it for self interest and there is a revolving door.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
The public can't have it both ways - if they don't want politicians to engage in commerce (even entirely within the rules framed by an independent regulator) then they have to be paid properly from the public purse.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
ClaphamGT3 said:
FiF said:
Whilst this chap has done absolutely nothing wrong and has reported everything completely correctly in the book of members' interests, stuff like this just reinforces the public view that politicians are in it for self interest and there is a revolving door.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
The public can't have it both ways - if they don't want politicians to engage in commerce (even entirely within the rules framed by an independent regulator) then they have to be paid properly from the public purse.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
what makes you say they are not?
NicD said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
FiF said:
Whilst this chap has done absolutely nothing wrong and has reported everything completely correctly in the book of members' interests, stuff like this just reinforces the public view that politicians are in it for self interest and there is a revolving door.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
The public can't have it both ways - if they don't want politicians to engage in commerce (even entirely within the rules framed by an independent regulator) then they have to be paid properly from the public purse.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
what makes you say they are not?
ClaphamGT3 said:
NicD said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
FiF said:
Whilst this chap has done absolutely nothing wrong and has reported everything completely correctly in the book of members' interests, stuff like this just reinforces the public view that politicians are in it for self interest and there is a revolving door.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
The public can't have it both ways - if they don't want politicians to engage in commerce (even entirely within the rules framed by an independent regulator) then they have to be paid properly from the public purse.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaan...
what makes you say they are not?
But I am particularly not convinced that paying substantially more will bring about 'high quality people in politics, focusing on politics rather than outside interests'
Is there any evidence or lessons from other countries to support this?
Seems we would get the same autocue, scheming, venal, connected but useless people, just being paid more.
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