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Tom Logan said:
Elroy Blue said:
I certainly don't condone what he did, but is he any threat to the Public. I think we can safely say a resounding no.
On that basis I don't see why he can't be treated like many other prisoners who have committed 'violent' crime and be released.
Agree with his 100%, a dose of humanitarianism would go a long way to restoring faith in the justice system with the general public.On that basis I don't see why he can't be treated like many other prisoners who have committed 'violent' crime and be released.
So why release him on bail?
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
HaplessBoyLard said:
Tom Logan said:
Agree with his 100%, a dose of humanitarianism would go a long way to restoring faith in the justice system with the general public.
Where was the humanitarianism when he executed a seriously wounded man? Rude-boy said:
HaplessBoyLard said:
Tom Logan said:
Agree with his 100%, a dose of humanitarianism would go a long way to restoring faith in the justice system with the general public.
Where was the humanitarianism when he executed a seriously wounded man? just to add for the record, I have taken the shilling (although not in a direct combat role, I did basic 6 weeks like we all did but I was a mere REME VM [/footnote]
Edited by Tom Logan on Wednesday 21st December 18:38
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
nor will he be building bombs. planting IEDs, shooting at British Soldiers...BIANCO said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
nor will he be building bombs. planting IEDs, shooting at British Soldiers...
t there to die." 
LordHaveMurci said:
BIANCO said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
nor will he be building bombs. planting IEDs, shooting at British Soldiers...t there to die." 
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
BIANCO said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
nor will he be building bombs. planting IEDs, shooting at British Soldiers...t there to die." LordHaveMurci said:
BIANCO said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
nor will he be building bombs. planting IEDs, shooting at British Soldiers...t there to die." hidetheelephants said:
Don't the QRs oblige them to give medical aid to all injured parties?
International Law, via the Geneva Conventions, mandates it.Any injured person, or person who is hors de combat, should be treated as a protected person.
Edited by MikeGTi on Wednesday 21st December 20:50
Jazzy Jag said:
LordHaveMurci said:
The bloke he murdered won't be soending time with his family over christmas.
nor delivering Christmas giftshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KLDjUgCza0
Rude-boy said:
There are many who would say that his actions were far more humanitarian than the law which has been used to imprison him.
If what he said on that video indicated in any way that he was acting in a humanitarian fashion, I would agree with you on a moral (not legal) basis. He didn't kill him because he wanted to end the suffering. He did it because he wanted to kill him.
I feel bad for him and i'd like to see his sentence reduced perhaps, in the grounds of combat stress, ptsd, diminished responsibility etc, even though I reckon it's a load of crap.
But ultimately the guy has committed a murder with absolutely conclusive evidence. His chance of reoffending is pretty much nill, which hopefully is factored in during his hearing.
He'll be lucky with anything he gets.
But ultimately the guy has committed a murder with absolutely conclusive evidence. His chance of reoffending is pretty much nill, which hopefully is factored in during his hearing.
He'll be lucky with anything he gets.
If he is/was Armed Forces then he should remember his Attestation or Commission.
This is an Attestation:
This is what it says on a Commissioning Scroll:
Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND AND OF HER OTHER REALMS AND
TERRITORIES QUEEN, HEAD OF THE COMMONWEALTH, DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
To Our Trusty and well beloved xxxx Greeting.
WE, reposing especial Trust and Confidence in your Loyalty, Courage and good Conduct
Do by these Presents Constitute and Appoint you to be an Officer in
Our Royal Air Force from the X day of X, You are Therefore carefully and diligently to discharge your Duty as such in the Rank of Pilot Officer or in such other Rank as We may from time to time hereafter be
Pleased to promote or appoint you to and you are in such manner and on such Occasions as may be prescribed by Us to exercise and well discipline in their Duties such Officers, Airmen and Airwomen as may be placed under your orders From time to time and use you best endeavours to keep them in good Order and
Discipline. And we do hereby Command them to Obey you as their superior Officer and you to Observe and follow such Orders and Directions as from time to time you shall receive from Us, or any superior Officer, according to the Rules and Disciplines of War, in pursuance of the Trust hereby reposed in you.
Given at Our Court, at Saint James’s the X day of X in the X Year of our Reign
By By Her Majesty’s Command.
You'll note the requirement to obey Her Majesty's commands and those of Superior Officers.
One of these is to obey the Third Geneva Convention of 1949.
No ifs, no buts.
This is an Attestation:
This is what it says on a Commissioning Scroll:
Elizabeth II, by the Grace of God OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND AND OF HER OTHER REALMS AND
TERRITORIES QUEEN, HEAD OF THE COMMONWEALTH, DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
To Our Trusty and well beloved xxxx Greeting.
WE, reposing especial Trust and Confidence in your Loyalty, Courage and good Conduct
Do by these Presents Constitute and Appoint you to be an Officer in
Our Royal Air Force from the X day of X, You are Therefore carefully and diligently to discharge your Duty as such in the Rank of Pilot Officer or in such other Rank as We may from time to time hereafter be
Pleased to promote or appoint you to and you are in such manner and on such Occasions as may be prescribed by Us to exercise and well discipline in their Duties such Officers, Airmen and Airwomen as may be placed under your orders From time to time and use you best endeavours to keep them in good Order and
Discipline. And we do hereby Command them to Obey you as their superior Officer and you to Observe and follow such Orders and Directions as from time to time you shall receive from Us, or any superior Officer, according to the Rules and Disciplines of War, in pursuance of the Trust hereby reposed in you.
Given at Our Court, at Saint James’s the X day of X in the X Year of our Reign
By By Her Majesty’s Command.
You'll note the requirement to obey Her Majesty's commands and those of Superior Officers.
One of these is to obey the Third Geneva Convention of 1949.
No ifs, no buts.
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