Done Better than Expected - That will be £1.7bn then - WTF!
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I think this should be by voluntary public subscription. I saw a figure of £56 (IIRC) per tax payer - how about a public vote of confidence in the EU? If you think it's a good idea to pay up and believe the money will be put to good use, do so - if you don't, then don't!
I know which camp I'm in! Aaaahm oot!
I know which camp I'm in! Aaaahm oot!
PRTVR said:
Has there been any comments yet from ed or anybody from the labour party?
The Labour Party are on an emergency multi £million tax payer funded course...Day 1: How to use Twitter; #'The Importance of understanding, and how to engage with, 'people'.'
Day 2: What sexual abuse of 1400 girls? Nothing to do with us.'The power of silence in Politcal Denial Strategy'.
Day 3-2040 'maxism v communism etc etc etc'
Pesty said:
vescaegg said:
Adding the 'on Dec 1st' is clever. Means he will just pay sometime afterwards.
It's not clever it just shows how stupid he thinks we are. He holds us in utter contempt.Cameron, like the rest of the UK politicians hold us in contempt.
It is the European Union politicians who hold all of the member states populations in utter contempt.
It's almost impossible to consider the huge budget of the EU without questioning the sanity of the EU and it's leaders.
XJ Flyer said:
The fact is we've been in a trade deficit situation with Europe since we joined it.They have everything to lose in a trade war situation with us.As it stands our EU membership is just a scam in which we are blackmailed and pay for the privilege of being in a trade deficit situation.
So you believe somehow our 63m customer base will stop buying EU goods and instead buy UK goods to such a level to counter the loss of 800m EU customers?Its possible but (without knowing the numbers) sniff test it really doesn't pass go.
Welshbeef said:
XJ Flyer said:
The fact is we've been in a trade deficit situation with Europe since we joined it.They have everything to lose in a trade war situation with us.As it stands our EU membership is just a scam in which we are blackmailed and pay for the privilege of being in a trade deficit situation.
So you believe somehow our 63m customer base will stop buying EU goods and instead buy UK goods to such a level to counter the loss of 800m EU customers?Its possible but (without knowing the numbers) sniff test it really doesn't pass go.
1) we don't have a 63M customer base, in reality, it's probably more like 30M and of them, <10M have the spending power to make a choice.
2) so using your analogy, the ~430M EU customer base will stop buying UK goods?
then we get to the major flaw in your argument, the vast majority of our output is not goods, it's services.
Welshbeef said:
XJ Flyer said:
The fact is we've been in a trade deficit situation with Europe since we joined it.They have everything to lose in a trade war situation with us.As it stands our EU membership is just a scam in which we are blackmailed and pay for the privilege of being in a trade deficit situation.
So you believe somehow our 63m customer base will stop buying EU goods and instead buy UK goods to such a level to counter the loss of 800m EU customers?Its possible but (without knowing the numbers) sniff test it really doesn't pass go.
PRTVR said:
cayman-black said:
PRTVR said:
Has there been any comments yet from ed or anybody from the labour party?
Ed has not taken it in yet , give him some time poor chap.
To be fair I thought Cameron was genuinely upset (and that's good for a change), still it shows he either is embarrassed he wasn't briefed, or he realises how badly it will play in the UK and Rochester. I'm not convinced he (or rather we) are not*going to pay (rather borrow) the bill at all. Indeed I'd still not vote for him, until there's a date of referendum date (in writing).
Nothing much from Ed, I suggest he claim he's going to use his mansion tax (again) to pay for it and claim when he said 10000 more midwives, 20000 nurses, 5000 doctors (or whatever it was) he says that he didn't specify which country they'd be employed, as in they'll be in France, Germany, etc.
ETA *not
Nothing much from Ed, I suggest he claim he's going to use his mansion tax (again) to pay for it and claim when he said 10000 more midwives, 20000 nurses, 5000 doctors (or whatever it was) he says that he didn't specify which country they'd be employed, as in they'll be in France, Germany, etc.
ETA *not
Edited by Northern Munkee on Friday 24th October 19:54
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