scotland to reduce Drink Drive limit

[sidicks]

anonymous said:

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See Turbobloke's recent post about th Borkenstein study...

[Colonial]

It is more dangerous driving at 60 than 50.

You could cause harm to a pedestrian or other road user. Even if legal to do so.

[Edinburger]

McWigglebum4th said:

anonymous said:

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Well what else should we be drinking?

Coke = sugary fking horrible fizzy nasty st that makes me burp that is bloody expensive

Lemonade = See coke

diet coke = See coke

fanta = See coke

iru bru = See coke

soft drinks = See coke

american beers = See coke

sparkling water = See coke without sugar

Fruit juice = overly sweet


So i am left with water


Oh great lets go out dear for a nice glass of water


Or take my life in my hands with a mini cab

My local taxi driver has the nickname of rollover roy

There's lots of other non-alcoholic drinks available. Or get a(nother) taxi.

You said that it's £80 in a taxi home. That's your lifestyle choice. You could eat/go out closer to home?

I'd love to see this reported:

Judge: "Can you please explain why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive?"
Wiggleayrse: "Because coke makes me burp" or "Because I'm not spending £80 on the taxi home" or "Because it's my democratic right"
Judge: "Take him down!"

[Edinburger]

eharding said:

Well, here's an interesting chloropleth. The scale is grams per decilitre of blood.



It looks like Scotland is about to change to the slightly lighter shade of green favoured by much of western Europe in due course.

The thing is, from that map - on a completely unscientific basis - that the more a nation has a reputation for indulging in high-order alcohol abuse, the lower the limit is.

McWiggle's problem is that he lives in Scotland, which has a certain reputation in that regard.

Perhaps if he moved to the soft shandy-drinking South he wouldn't be having such an embolism about the whole thing.

Good post. I really struggle to see what's wrong with this proposal.

[Edinburger]

anonymous said:

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Well said

Just to clarify and to answer a question someone put to me: my point was that we should drink or drive. I personally don't see the point in just having one. If I'm out then I'm out and I'm having several. One pint is pointless. And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

[Disastrous]

Edinburger said:

There's lots of other non-alcoholic drinks available. Or get a(nother) taxi.

You said that it's £80 in a taxi home. That's your lifestyle choice. You could eat/go out closer to home?

I'd love to see this reported:

Judge: "Can you please explain why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive?"
Wiggleayrse: "Because coke makes me burp" or "Because I'm not spending £80 on the taxi home" or "Because it's my democratic right"
Judge: "Take him down!"

Eh?

Judge: "You don't have to explain to me why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive as currently, you're allowed to by law and society has deemed it appropriate. That is likely to change but until then, chin chin"

Do you think it's currently outrageous that the law allows you to have a pint and drive? That is seriously odd if so. I hugely respect the personal rights of people to choose whether they have even one or not but you simply cannot castigate people for making the same choice within the law.

By extension, what was ok yesterday doesn't suddenly become morally wrong the minute the law changes. It's illegal yes, but not 'bad'.

I presume you can't handle yourself in a bar so well? Do you struggle knowing where your limits are?

[Efbe]

McWigglebum4th said:

This is classic SNP

be seen to be doing something


The actual effect is irrelevant

As it would be far far far far far to hard to actual catch those driving above the current limit so the have dropped the limit

It will have ZERO effect on my life as the chances of being stopped are almost nil




Like the up coming ban on air weapons unless you have license


Sounds tough


Will have zero effect on the neds running around glasgow shoting folk with air rifles

OT:
what airgun ban?

not saying I have one, but a friend of mine still has one from years back. does he need a licence now?

[Axionknight]

He said upcoming so why would your friend need a license "now"?

[sidicks]

Edinburger said:

Well said

Just to clarify and to answer a question someone put to me: my point was that we should drink or drive. I personally don't see the point in just having one. If I'm out then I'm out and I'm having several. One pint is pointless. And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

Your claim is 'madness'.

[McWigglebum4th]

anonymous said:

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I am more likely to be have my head kicked in by a drunken ahole who has had ten pints then run down by someone who has had a pint of beer

So why is this acceptable?

I would happily see a limit of 0.080 brought into being ANYWHERE in a public place. I can't see if being acceptable to get into drunken brawls so the obvious solution is to stop people being drunk in public


Care to argue that YOUR liberty is being effected by this idea?

[wolves_wanderer]

Edinburger said:

Just to clarify and to answer a question someone put to me: my point was that we should drink or drive. I personally don't see the point in just having one. If I'm out then I'm out and I'm having several. One pint is pointless. And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

Whereas I am capable of enjoying one pint without feeling tortured by it and needing to have more. I'm not Scottish though so that may explain it.

[BooHoo]

Edinburger said:

I'd love to see this reported:

Judge: "Can you please explain why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive?"
Wiggleayrse: "Because coke makes me burp" or "Because I'm not spending £80 on the taxi home" or "Because it's my democratic right"
Judge: "Take him down!"

So you think someone is going to be imprisoned for doing something which is perfectly legal? Do you enjoy making yourself look stupid?

[heebeegeetee]

anonymous said:

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Such as driving? There is no 'could' about it at all, you drive a car on the roads and everyone at that road is at some risk from you.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

There's lots of other non-alcoholic drinks available. Or get a(nother) taxi.

You said that it's £80 in a taxi home. That's your lifestyle choice. You could eat/go out closer to home?

I'd love to see this reported:

Judge: "Can you please explain why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive?"
Wiggleayrse: "Because coke makes me burp" or "Because I'm not spending £80 on the taxi home" or "Because it's my democratic right"
Judge: "Take him down!"

it is no longer my democratic right as a party which 22% of scottish voters voted for have decided to remove that particular freedom

So now i have no other choice then to call up rollover roy

Rollover roy briefly starred in the Gaelic version of top gear and is a great laugh, just never be stupid enough to be his navigator in a rally

[Edinburger]

Disastrous said:

Edinburger said:

There's lots of other non-alcoholic drinks available. Or get a(nother) taxi.

You said that it's £80 in a taxi home. That's your lifestyle choice. You could eat/go out closer to home?

I'd love to see this reported:

Judge: "Can you please explain why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive?"
Wiggleayrse: "Because coke makes me burp" or "Because I'm not spending £80 on the taxi home" or "Because it's my democratic right"
Judge: "Take him down!"

Eh?

Judge: "You don't have to explain to me why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive as currently, you're allowed to by law and society has deemed it appropriate. That is likely to change but until then, chin chin"

Do you think it's currently outrageous that the law allows you to have a pint and drive? That is seriously odd if so. I hugely respect the personal rights of people to choose whether they have even one or not but you simply cannot castigate people for making the same choice within the law.

By extension, what was ok yesterday doesn't suddenly become morally wrong the minute the law changes. It's illegal yes, but not 'bad'.

I presume you can't handle yourself in a bar so well? Do you struggle knowing where your limits are?

"society has deemed it appropriate" - really? Technically, it's permitted legally but I think you'll find that most of sopciety dems it to be inappropriate and socially unacceptable.

As for "have a pint and drive" then that's not necessarily what's being discussed by Wiggley...

And I can handle myself in a bar very well, thank you. I'm a frequent drinker and I know where to draw the line. My decision is to never drive after drinking.

[Disastrous]

Edinburger said:

And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

[Edinburger]

BooHoo said:

Edinburger said:

I'd love to see this reported:

Judge: "Can you please explain why you think it's appropriate to knowingly drink and drive?"
Wiggleayrse: "Because coke makes me burp" or "Because I'm not spending £80 on the taxi home" or "Because it's my democratic right"
Judge: "Take him down!"

So you think someone is going to be imprisoned for doing something which is perfectly legal? Do you enjoy making yourself look stupid?

Google facetious

[Edinburger]

Disastrous said:

Edinburger said:

And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

Not sure why you find that funny.

Would you be happy if the pilot on your flight had just had a pint?

[Disastrous]

Edinburger said:

"society has deemed it appropriate" - really? Technically, it's permitted legally but I think you'll find that most of sopciety dems it to be inappropriate and socially unacceptable.

Yes, they have. It's really just you and some other terrified children that think it's such a heinous thing to have a beer and drive.

[Disastrous]

Edinburger said:

Disastrous said:

Edinburger said:

And if I'm driving then one pint is madness.

Not sure why you find that funny.

Would you be happy if the pilot on your flight had just had a pint?

Because it's not madness. And honestly, I've been in a light aircraft with a bloke after a couple of pints. I really didn't care at all because it's just one fking beer!

Airlines I'm sure have much stricter regulations than the roads do for a number of reasons - insurance, number of people involved and possible lawsuits etc etc. Money, rather than likelihood of an incident, I would suspect.

Anyway, nobody is talking about pilots - we're talking about driving cars.