scotland to reduce Drink Drive limit
Discussion
Edinburger said:
That's your view. To me, drinking at those levels and just those levels is pointless. I'd rather not drink than just drink one pint. And then hope that the barman poured me a pint of Carlsberg and not a Brewdog Tactical Nuclear Penguin by mistake!
But your personal opinion has nothing to do with the risk or the facts!Edinburger said:
That's your view. To me, drinking at those levels and just those levels is pointless. I'd rather not drink than just drink one pint. And then hope that the barman poured me a pint of Carlsberg and not a Brewdog Tactical Nuclear Penguin by mistake!
I find that very odd.It's like saying I'd rather not have one chocolate out of the box as it's pointless just having one.
I could have one pint, half a pint or 5 pints (obviously not driving) in different circumstances and find them all perfectly acceptable.
Do you not actually like a good pint but instead like the effects of having a skinful, then?
Perhaps that's what is colouring your opinion on other people having one pint and driving - you associate going out for a pint with being pissed?
Edinburger said:
You're talking about mph rather than mg, yeah?
Seems like a silly statement. But you knew that anyway.
Why is it a silly statement. Seems like a silly statement. But you knew that anyway.
You are preaching that driving within the legal alcohol concentration is an unnecessary risk. Surely doing the speed limit (also legal) rather than 10mph below, just to be on the safe side, is also something you support?
Or is it just rampant hypocrisy based on an emotional response?
I'd consider myself a bigger risk driving under the influence of Ricky Martin than I would under the influence of a pint of beer.
On new years eve I was pulled over on my way to a party. I admitted having finished a single pint 20 minutes earlier. I blew a zero and he sent me on my way. I really dont think its particularly dangerous.
On new years eve I was pulled over on my way to a party. I admitted having finished a single pint 20 minutes earlier. I blew a zero and he sent me on my way. I really dont think its particularly dangerous.
eharding said:
The odd thing is - if you were to produce a similar map with "road deaths per capita" - the colours would be more or less the reverse of this.The UK has the highest DD limit in Europe currently - but it also has one of the lowest casualty rates.
Perhaps proper enforcement of the limits that are in place is more important than the actual limit imposed.
sidicks said:
Edinburger said:
That's your view. To me, drinking at those levels and just those levels is pointless. I'd rather not drink than just drink one pint. And then hope that the barman poured me a pint of Carlsberg and not a Brewdog Tactical Nuclear Penguin by mistake!
But your personal opinion has nothing to do with the risk or the facts!"I don't only drink 1 pint, so I don't care if the freedom of society as a whole is eroded on dubious (at best) logic."
McWigglebum4th said:
Edinburger said:
No wind up. It's your decision. Do what you like - just don't do it anywhere near my children.
Seeing you are incapable of having a pint and must have at least 6 pintsCan i request you stay off the street as i am far more likely to be stabbed to death by you then you are to be run over by me
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
95 murders in 2010 and 53% of all those murders involved drink so 50 deaths
On the road 10% of deaths related to drink and 173 deaths in scotland which is 17 deaths
Justify not having a 1 pint limit in all public places
Or do you approve of people stabbing each other?
anonymous said:
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Oh, and as for the comment of cant enjoy just one pint, this simply shows your attitude to alcohol, not everyone takes the first sip of their first drink with an end goal of getting wasted.
Genuine question and an honest answer would be appreciated: What's the goal of having that first sip/pint?As for the anecdote about hgv drivers on the limit of their vehicles and ability - the relevance this has for Joe McPublic driving home on road at safe and sensible speeds much within the car's capabilities might also be very low...?
As for the question of "what's the point in 1 pint?" ...personally I like a pint
5 Scottish postcodes feature in the top 20 areas for drink driving convictions. Wonder what that figure will be when the new law comes in.
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/car-insurance/blog...
If you look at the convictions according to occupation (for the whole of the uk) tarmaccers come out on top.
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/car-insurance/blog...
If you look at the convictions according to occupation (for the whole of the uk) tarmaccers come out on top.
Edited by BlackLabel on Thursday 27th November 22:22
Vipers said:
So Police Scotland will be increasing random checks for drink/drive AFTER the new limit comes in.
If they are so worried about drink/driving, why aren't they increasing random checks before it comes into force.
Does revenue spring to mind?
I wonder if they will be out at 2am looking for those 5 times over the new limitIf they are so worried about drink/driving, why aren't they increasing random checks before it comes into force.
Does revenue spring to mind?
Or will they be out at 8am looking for those 5% over the new limit
Would n't be the first time i have seen the police having a road block going into badentoy industrial estate testing random cars
Still no answer from Edinburgh on banning drink everywhere
McWigglebum4th said:
Would n't be the first time i have seen the police having a road block going into badentoy industrial estate.
They could make loads of dosh there with a speed camera to catch those coming off the northbound A90 turning left at the slip road and zipping down the road into the estate.Edinburger said:
simoid said:
I like a pint if I go out for a meal or something. Usually I'll drive and the missus will have a couple of glasses of wine. I'll make my first drink a pint of something nice, then have water or soft drinks. This law is nothing more than a restriction on my freedom to enjoy a pint responsibly.
Why do you have a pint when you know you'll be driving?Edinburger said:
simoid said:
As I said in the post above: I like to enjoy a pint of something nice if I'm out for dinner. Or occasionally a bottle of beer or a glass of vino.
A beer with a meal improves my experience greatly. Complementary goods.
In that case, get a taxi home. A beer with a meal improves my experience greatly. Complementary goods.
If you want to drive, don't have a beer.
Simples.
You may prefer not to do it, but why do you wish to impose that limitation on others? Most of them are probably being quite sensible and careful and causing no problem at all, in which case I don't think it is necessary to interfere with what they are doing.
Edinburger said:
The reason I'm so against drink driving is because a loved one was killed by a drunk driver a few years ago.
It's beyond me why anyone would knowingly drink alcohol and then knowingly drive a car. Or even plan to.
This proposed change is to prevent people having " just the one".
It's car or booze - they don't match.
Wiggley - we all know you pride yourself on drinking and driving and for that reason you are an idiot.
Well I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, but you did say that your loved one was killed by a drunk driver, not one who had consumed a small, and relatively harmless, quantity of alcohol. I do not seek to defend drivers who are drunk.It's beyond me why anyone would knowingly drink alcohol and then knowingly drive a car. Or even plan to.
This proposed change is to prevent people having " just the one".
It's car or booze - they don't match.
Wiggley - we all know you pride yourself on drinking and driving and for that reason you are an idiot.
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