No link between tough penalties and drug use states report

No link between tough penalties and drug use states report

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g3org3y

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20,624 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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article said:
There is "no obvious" link between tough laws and levels of illegal drug use, a government report has found.

Liberal Democrat Home Office minister Norman Baker said the report, comparing the UK with other countries, should end "mindless rhetoric" on drugs policy.

He accused the Conservatives of "suppressing" the findings for months.

Prime Minister David Cameron said the research did not offer "specific conclusions" and said he did not "believe in" decriminalising drugs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29824764

What do the drug addicts of PH reckon? Time to decriminalise?

nightflight

812 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hang the dealers. End of problem.

TTwiggy

11,535 posts

204 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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nightflight said:
Hang the dealers. End of problem.
Plenty more to take their places. It's a business and a lucrative one. The best dealers are just businessmen. Why not make them legit?

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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This country will never change the drugs policy whilst those in charge control
The drugs trade, how else is it possible that millions of tons of various drugs reach our people every week
And certain people never seem to be found out even when they drive around in posh cars don't work but invest in there mates small buisiness to launder money have all the watches designer clothes and electrical goods and rent £5k a month houses !

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Laws/penalties that are not enforced of course have no effect.

There is no war on drugs, you've just been told there is. How many do you know that smoke cannabis? How many have been done for it? IIRC max sentencing for possessing class C drugs is 2 years in custody.

Getragdogleg

8,759 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Drugs are the symptom of the much larger social problem in this country.

No government will ever have the balls to sort out the actual issues because it is too hard and will take too long and won't gain any votes or profit.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Well a guy and his m8's that lives near me got 10 years for trying to bring a big amount of coke across the channel in a rib
They were caught red handed by the French and arrested in Hythe the same chap is responsible for atleast 200 odd previous crimes including car theft robbery and kidnap and gbh
He will be out soon again driving around in m5's and generally terrorising the area
Oh and he is a cage fighter the sentences he has had over the years have made not 1 jot of difference

Hilts

4,383 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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nightflight said:
Hang the dealers. End of problem.
Surely you mean hang the users?

No users, no dealers.

Hilts

4,383 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Can someone explain the difference between alcohol, tobacco and drugs?

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Yeah right hang half the country most being working normal people that you probably share your day with lol
Most high flyers are sniff heads most hardcore pub visitors sniff the coke keeps them able to down 20 pints
Legalise the stuff and there won't be any nasty dealers they will have to go back to robbing loafs of bread from Asda

nightflight

812 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hilts said:
Surely you mean hang the users?

No users, no dealers.
No, I meant hang the dealers, and you wouldn't actually have to do that many. Stop it at the source. It works in other parts of the world. Also Napalm the poppy fields in Afghanistan. Very easy to do.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hilts said:
Can someone explain the difference between alcohol, tobacco and drugs?
The only difference is the legality and social acceptance

Tribal Chestnut

2,997 posts

182 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hilts said:
Can someone explain the difference between alcohol, tobacco and drugs?
Two are taxed and sold legitimately, the latter isn't.

Hilts

4,383 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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loose cannon said:
Yeah right hang half the country most being working normal people that you probably share your day with lol
Most high flyers are sniff heads most hardcore pub visitors sniff the coke keeps them able to down 20 pints
Legalise the stuff and there won't be any nasty dealers they will have to go back to robbing loafs of bread from Asda
I think you thought I was being serious. Apologies, I should have included the sarcastic smilie. I'll endeavour this never happens again.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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nightflight said:
No, I meant hang the dealers, and you wouldn't actually have to do that many. Stop it at the source. It works in other parts of the world. Also Napalm the poppy fields in Afghanistan. Very easy to do.
Lol if you think the big issue is heroin addicts on the welfare you need to wake up m8
The biggest issue in this country is Charlie heads they run the country

Hilts

4,383 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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nightflight said:
No, I meant hang the dealers, and you wouldn't actually have to do that many. Stop it at the source. It works in other parts of the world. Also Napalm the poppy fields in Afghanistan. Very easy to do.
Didn't we already try eradication in Afghanistan?

Glorious failure.

eldar

21,702 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hilts said:
Can someone explain the difference between alcohol, tobacco and drugs?
Tax.

gazza285

9,805 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hilts said:
Can someone explain the difference between alcohol, tobacco and drugs?
All three are illegally imported and sold, but if you choose you can pay duty on two of them.

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Government acts tough.Coppers kicking doors in and nothing changes.

Wouldn't surprise me if the majority of our law makers are drug users.>smile

Blib

43,950 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hilts said:
Can someone explain the difference between alcohol, tobacco and drugs?
Alcohol and tobacco kill far more people.