Petrol Prices

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Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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I saw 107.7 in Doncaster yesterday. Typical I crashed my Jag last year so can't take advantage to run a big car.

unrepentant

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21,284 posts

257 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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$1.69 today. Down to 28p per litre.....




league67

1,878 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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unrepentant said:
$1.69 today. Down to 28p per litre.....



I like you less.

A.J.M

7,938 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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unrepentant said:
$1.69 today. Down to 28p per litre.....



Sod. Off.

hehe

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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unrepentant said:
$1.69 today. Down to 28p per litre.....
All in favour of a PH fundraiser for a hitman to take out unrepentant, raise your hands....

lord summerisle

8,138 posts

226 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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A.J.M said:
Yesterday I passed an Esso with 106 for petrol and 113 for diesel.

I can see petrol going back below £1 by March.
Local Shell station here keeps dropping the price at weekends - its been 105.9 the last couple of days. Texaco down the road from there was 106.0 - and the Shell and Tesco in the next village 2miles away being 109.9

Mr Whippy

29,085 posts

242 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Better yet oil prices are dropping hard.

Heating oil has gone from about 60p to 40p now over the year. Winter demand just doesn't even register on the price vs time.


Win win for everyone... for now.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Well if the rate continues to drop at the speed it is then we may see WTI at $50 by Wednesday! Brent will follow a few days behind as it tends to be a few £ higher on average.

Good news all round for petrol heads! Now if chemicals can fall at the same rate then race fuel will be cheaper to!

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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PhillipM said:
unrepentant said:
$1.69 today. Down to 28p per litre.....
All in favour of a PH fundraiser for a hitman to take out unrepentant, raise your hands....
yes

Vaud

50,680 posts

156 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Mr Whippy said:
Better yet oil prices are dropping hard.

Heating oil has gone from about 60p to 40p now over the year. Winter demand just doesn't even register on the price vs time.


Win win for everyone... for now.
Until we get deflation. I forget what part of the price index fuel contributes (esp indirect)?

PorkInsider

5,893 posts

142 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Crude is continuing its slide today.

Brent is under $55.00 as I type this!

Further fuel price reductions to follow???

ETA: it's dropped another dollar to under $54.50 in the past few minutes!

Edited by PorkInsider on Monday 5th January 13:08

turbobloke

104,102 posts

261 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Vaud said:
Mr Whippy said:
Better yet oil prices are dropping hard.

Heating oil has gone from about 60p to 40p now over the year. Winter demand just doesn't even register on the price vs time.


Win win for everyone... for now.
Until we get deflation. I forget what part of the price index fuel contributes (esp indirect)?
Indeed...in which case when are the prices of all transported goods going to fall noticeably, food and clothing for example...

TwoLeadFeet

140 posts

160 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Mr Whippy said:
Win win for everyone... for now.
Not for those working in offshore oil production...

Mr Whippy

29,085 posts

242 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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TwoLeadFeet said:
Mr Whippy said:
Win win for everyone... for now.
Not for those working in offshore oil production...
It'll go back up. Businesses can live off savings for a bit I suppose?

Mr Whippy

29,085 posts

242 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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turbobloke said:
Vaud said:
Mr Whippy said:
Better yet oil prices are dropping hard.

Heating oil has gone from about 60p to 40p now over the year. Winter demand just doesn't even register on the price vs time.


Win win for everyone... for now.
Until we get deflation. I forget what part of the price index fuel contributes (esp indirect)?
Indeed...in which case when are the prices of all transported goods going to fall noticeably, food and clothing for example...
Yep, it's all going a bit funny.

You could argue that low oil prices are masking inflation of other elements in the pipeline. No pun intended.

Even for national stats, inflation looks low, so against stagnant salaries we may not feel so bad off.


But it is certainly a case of 'for now'... because the longer it stays low or drops more the worse it's gonna be in far more important areas of our finances I think! frown

Dave

TwoLeadFeet

140 posts

160 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Mr Whippy said:
TwoLeadFeet said:
Mr Whippy said:
Win win for everyone... for now.
Not for those working in offshore oil production...
It'll go back up. Businesses can live off savings for a bit I suppose?
Yes, the oil price will go back up, but no one knows when, how quickly, or to what level. In the meantime businesses who work in oil & gas production will have to survive with a significantly reduced income as projects and maintenance work gets cancelled & postponed, and irrespective of "savings" or other funding streams which may be available, costs will be trimmed back which means salaries reduced & jobs cut.

Just saying like...it's not win win for everyone

turbobloke

104,102 posts

261 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Presumably fuel duty is still 58p per litre so HMG will rake in even more (and the VAT on top) if petrol and diesel sales grow on the back of low oil prices, reversing a 6-year fall in sales totalling around 25%.

Article from May 2014 said:
The cost of filling with diesel in the UK the 80-litre tank of a Ford Transit van – the staple of small businesses often characterised as ‘white van man’ - amounts to £108.74 of which £63.79 is tax.
If the duty is a percentage rather than a fixed amount however...

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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turbobloke said:
Presumably fuel duty is still 58p per litre so HMG will rake in even more (and the VAT on top) if petrol and diesel sales grow on the back of low oil prices, reversing a 6-year fall in sales totalling around 25%.

Article from May 2014 said:
The cost of filling with diesel in the UK the 80-litre tank of a Ford Transit van – the staple of small businesses often characterised as ‘white van man’ - amounts to £108.74 of which £63.79 is tax.
If the duty is a percentage rather than a fixed amount however...
It is fixed and currently at £0.5795 (plus VAT)

With the example above of 80 litres at a price of £1.20 per litre (about the national average today) then £0.415 is the fuel, £0.5795 is duty and £0.20 is VAT, giving a total of £95.56 for the tank (a total of £62.36 in taxes and £33.20 for the fuel).

Edited by Grumfutock on Monday 5th January 14:51

turbobloke

104,102 posts

261 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Grumfutock said:
turbobloke said:
Presumably fuel duty is still 58p per litre so HMG will rake in even more (and the VAT on top) if petrol and diesel sales grow on the back of low oil prices, reversing a 6-year fall in sales totalling around 25%.

Article from May 2014 said:
The cost of filling with diesel in the UK the 80-litre tank of a Ford Transit van – the staple of small businesses often characterised as ‘white van man’ - amounts to £108.74 of which £63.79 is tax.
If the duty is a percentage rather than a fixed amount however...
It is fixed and currently at £0.5795 (plus VAT)
As I had suspected but then doubted, thanks smile

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

166 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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turbobloke said:
As I had suspected but then doubted, thanks smile
I should also add, dirty thieving bds!