Lame Duck Pres

[Art0ir]

Those are promising signs for sure. If the conservatives (small c) in the UK could manage to engage the same number of non white voters, it would be a game changer.

[Jimbeaux]

Art0ir said:

Those are promising signs for sure. If the conservatives (small c) in the UK could manage to engage the same number of non white voters, it would be a game changer.

This has been simmering for some time. The old chestnut of black establishment players bashing those who do not follow the black party line has been weakening for some time now, this election it finally broke through. Black voters are increasingly choosing for themselves who to cast a ballot for as opposed to being told who to vote for. Voting blind only to be rewarded by government benefits and generational poverty has thankfully lost its appeal with an increasing percentage of that voting block. People harp on about the GOP being "Old angry white men". Well, the same old crap spouted by dinosaurs like Chuck Rangel, Al Sharpton, Jessee Jackson, etc. has become the the same outdated race baiting, poverty pimping, you-are-a-victim-because-I-said-so are the slogans of old black men whose time and way of thinking have passed.
Equal opportunity for all, not to just participate but to be free to choose how you wish to participate, picking your own idealogy without ridicule because it's not "black enough", should be how things are done.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Friday 7th November 19:36

[Jimbeaux]

Let's step away from the Senate races and look at Governorships. Three very blue Democratic states elected GOP Governors on Tuesday night. Illinois (Obama's home state), Maryland, and Massachusetts have long Dem histories and large union participation. The Illinois Lt. Governor (one of the few people who asked Obama to come and appear with him)was considered a shoe in, a not-even-close race. He lost in one of the night's big surprises. 32 of the 50 states now have GOP Governors.

[Art0ir]

Jimbeaux said:

Let's step away from the Senate races and look at Governorships. Three very blue Democratic states elected GOP Governors on Tuesday night. Illinois (Obama's home state), Maryland, and Massachusetts have long Dem histories and large union participation. The Illinois Lt. Governor (one of the few people who asked Obama to come and appear with him)was considered a shoe in, a not-even-close race. He lost in one of the night's big surprises. 32 of the 50 states now have GOP Governors.

Forgive my ignorance, but the Governor manages the day to day running of the State, whereas the Senator represents the State at a Federal level; is that correct?

[Jimbeaux]

Art0ir said:

Jimbeaux said:

Let's step away from the Senate races and look at Governorships. Three very blue Democratic states elected GOP Governors on Tuesday night. Illinois (Obama's home state), Maryland, and Massachusetts have long Dem histories and large union participation. The Illinois Lt. Governor (one of the few people who asked Obama to come and appear with him)was considered a shoe in, a not-even-close race. He lost in one of the night's big surprises. 32 of the 50 states now have GOP Governors.

Forgive my ignorance, but the Governor manages the day to day running of the State, whereas the Senator represents the State at a Federal level; is that correct?

Senators represent their voters federally, yes. The Governor is a state's Chief Executive with far more unavoidable responsibilities as well as powers (within that state). There are two Senators per state, while the House of Representatives represent states by their population; the more citizens, the more representatives.

[Colonial]

Jimbeaux said:

They were blocked and continue to be weeded out. Colorado was won by the GOP because they blocked Joe Buck from running and put Grdner in. It will continue as a trend imo.

That's actually very good to hear.

[RobinBanks]

I remember talking to an Austrian girl when Obama had just been elected and she told me how fantastic it was.

I asked her why and she said something to the effect of "Well, America wouldn't have elected a black person unless he was really, really good."

I've never been impressed with him. I've never thought he was bad or good really. Just average.

[mybrainhurts]

extraT said:

I cannot comment on the cause of his unpopularity

What..?

Every time he pronounces an S, he bloody well whistles.

There's only so much of that you can take.

[rovermorris999]

RobinBanks said:

I remember talking to an Austrian girl when Obama had just been elected and she told me how fantastic it was.

I asked her why and she said something to the effect of "Well, America wouldn't have elected a black person unless he was really, really good."

I've never been impressed with him. I've never thought he was bad or good really. Just average.

He's as much white as he is black, people seem to forget the white mother. I fail to see how someone's skin colour can be an indicator of how good a leader they'll be though I understand the symbolism of it in country like the US or here.

[turbobloke]

mybrainhurts said:

extraT said:

I cannot comment on the cause of his unpopularity

What..?

Every time he pronounces an S, he bloody well whistles.

There's only so much of that you can take.

That, and every speech is a US road safety lesson for slow people.

Look left, look right, look left again, look right again, look left again...

[Muntu]

mybrainhurts said:

extraT said:

I cannot comment on the cause of his unpopularity

What..?

Every time he pronounces an S, he bloody well whistles.

There's only so much of that you can take.

At least Americans won't be catching "Eboley". Chicago Jesus is on the case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB3yHay5dMs

[Muntu]

extraT said:

I cannot comment on the cause of his unpopularity

Perhaps it is because of this sort of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpBwmN66As

[Jimbeaux]

Colonial said:

Jimbeaux said:

They were blocked and continue to be weeded out. Colorado was won by the GOP because they blocked Joe Buck from running and put Grdner in. It will continue as a trend imo.

That's actually very good to hear.

I agree.

[Jimbeaux]

Although not announced as of now, Dr. Ben Carson is my personal favorite for POTUS. I believe he will throw his hat into the ring. Scott Walker is another possibility.

[babatunde]

scherzkeks said:

I don't think so. He did what all politicians have done since the Reagan era. Prop up his donors and allow private business interests to dictate domestic and and foreign policy. The country is an oligarchy, there are no meaningful differences between the two major parties, and I believe we are watching the great experiment that was America come to an end.

As a great Obama fan, unfortunately I agree with you.

War crimes "look the other way" Americans don't commit war crimes and when they do, its for the greater good, therefore OK.

Banking fraud, "tut tut", here's some free money don't do it again"

[CamMoreRon]

That sounds remarkably familiar..

[Jimbeaux]

CamMoreRon said:

That sounds remarkably familiar..

It does; the Liberal Book of Talking Points.

[GavinPearson]

Jimbeaux said:

Although not announced as of now, Dr. Ben Carson is my personal favorite for POTUS. I believe he will throw his hat into the ring. Scott Walker is another possibility.

Neither stands any chance of being elected.

Carson has no track record outside his profession of medicine and appearing on Fox to state the blindingly obvious without Fox coming off as having a colour bias.

Scott Walker will not escape the 'shown women the back of his hand' comment by Democrats, and while he got elected in WI, he won't make it nationally.

A much better candidate would be Rick Snyder from Michigan, who has run the often Democratic leaning state extremely well and avoids religious controversy.

Whoever runs for President from a party doesn't just need to appeal to the party faithful - they'd vote for them anyway - but it's the swing voter that makes the difference. Rick Perry would do the job well but just won't appeal to enough of the middle ground to be elected as President.

[scherzkeks]

babatunde said:

As a great Obama fan, unfortunately I agree with you.

War crimes "look the other way" Americans don't commit war crimes and when they do, its for the greater good, therefore OK.

Banking fraud, "tut tut", here's some free money don't do it again"

Yes both of the major parties serve private interests. I think the Democrats still have a few good eggs, but they've been largely marginalized. Look up Obama's donors and compare with Romney. There is almost no difference, and this is reflected in domestic and foreign policy.

Interestingly enough, a recent Princeton study confirms what many of us know: the US is an oligarchy. The Obama deception was unfortunate, but entirely forseeable.

[Talksteer]

Jimbeaux said:

Talksteer said:

paranoid airbag said:

Blib said:

CamMoreRon said:

Plus a load more blanket surveillance, a massive step back in Green progress / social progress, and absolutely no hope for gun control. Do you think it's the Middle Eastern events and the constant "threat" of terrorism that has swung things back towards red?

What 'green progress' has he made?

Similarly gun control?

In fact for that issue, a Republican govt might actually be more effective. Measures from them are more likely to be seen as reasonable compromises by moderate gun owners - from the Democrats, they're gubbermint diktats. Meanwhile out of power the Democrats can take a step back and learn from their mistakes.

The Republicans have one big issue...... by and large they are wrong.

The Democratic position on most issues is actually the majority position for most Americans in social attitude surveys.

The reason why the Democrats don't win every election is that voting is fundamentally a statement of identity rather than a rational choice based on fundamental policy positions. Secondly there is the issue of perceived competence which Obama has not done well on partially because of the grid lock of the US system.

Wow, your state of denial is almost as good as Obama and his crew's

I'm far from the only person to pick up on this;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29990204

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/20...