Lame Duck Pres
Discussion
The Gruberquiddick is shining an unwelcome light at BHO
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GavinPearson said:
Jimbeaux said:
Although not announced as of now, Dr. Ben Carson is my personal favorite for POTUS. I believe he will throw his hat into the ring. Scott Walker is another possibility.
Neither stands any chance of being elected.Carson has no track record outside his profession of medicine and appearing on Fox to state the blindingly obvious without Fox coming off as having a colour bias.
Scott Walker will not escape the 'shown women the back of his hand' comment by Democrats, and while he got elected in WI, he won't make it nationally.
A much better candidate would be Rick Snyder from Michigan, who has run the often Democratic leaning state extremely well and avoids religious controversy.
Whoever runs for President from a party doesn't just need to appeal to the party faithful - they'd vote for them anyway - but it's the swing voter that makes the difference. Rick Perry would do the job well but just won't appeal to enough of the middle ground to be elected as President.
Obama is quite right to use executive order on immigration. The system is truly broken and the GOP have refused to fix it and, just like healthcare, they sit on their hands and do nothing while castigating a President who has given them every opportunity to get involved.
BlackLabel said:
What are Hillary's chances for 2016? The media seem to be bigging her up a lot.
She's been schmoozing a lot of corporate types and collected lots of campaign money as a result, so the media are bigging up who the paymasters approve of. She has name recognition, so getting dumb people to vote for her is not too difficult.unrepentant said:
BlackLabel said:
What are Hillary's chances for 2016? The media seem to be bigging her up a lot.
She's a shoe in. She's also the best candidate and will be a good president.What's the story with Rand Paul? I thought he was one of the more sensible ones (that I'd listened to at least)?
I think the disappointment was inevitable given the hyperbole at the time of his first election victory. The way he was talked about on the BBC you'd think he was going to walk along the waters of the Potomac to get to Washington DC rather than simply beating a fairly mediocre Republican opponent after 2 terms of GW Bush.
I never really shared this enthusiasm. He's articulate enough, and along with 99% of the rest of the worlf, less gaffe prone than his predecessor, but his grand vision and radical reforms didn't seem either grand or radical, and obviously were not practical either.
The reality is the hype on the BBC was simply because Obama was black, and having a black President of the nasty racist USA would be nearly as good as having a black President of South Africa was in 1994.
I didn't, and still don't follow US news and politics closely enough to know if the Democrats followed the same line of thinking, but with the expectations heaped on him in 2008 he couldn't help but disappoint the BBC.
I never really shared this enthusiasm. He's articulate enough, and along with 99% of the rest of the worlf, less gaffe prone than his predecessor, but his grand vision and radical reforms didn't seem either grand or radical, and obviously were not practical either.
The reality is the hype on the BBC was simply because Obama was black, and having a black President of the nasty racist USA would be nearly as good as having a black President of South Africa was in 1994.
I didn't, and still don't follow US news and politics closely enough to know if the Democrats followed the same line of thinking, but with the expectations heaped on him in 2008 he couldn't help but disappoint the BBC.
AJS- said:
I think the disappointment was inevitable given the hyperbole at the time of his first election victory. The way he was talked about on the BBC you'd think he was going to walk along the waters of the Potomac to get to Washington DC rather than simply beating a fairly mediocre Republican opponent after 2 terms of GW Bush.
I never really shared this enthusiasm. He's articulate enough, and along with 99% of the rest of the worlf, less gaffe prone than his predecessor, but his grand vision and radical reforms didn't seem either grand or radical, and obviously were not practical either.
The reality is the hype on the BBC was simply because Obama was black, and having a black President of the nasty racist USA would be nearly as good as having a black President of South Africa was in 1994.
I didn't, and still don't follow US news and politics closely enough to know if the Democrats followed the same line of thinking, but with the expectations heaped on him in 2008 he couldn't help but disappoint the BBC.
Sorry but that's a poor and very uninformed post. You say at the end that you don't follow US politics and that's obvious but given that you accept that you're completely ignorant on the subject why bother to post such drivel?I never really shared this enthusiasm. He's articulate enough, and along with 99% of the rest of the worlf, less gaffe prone than his predecessor, but his grand vision and radical reforms didn't seem either grand or radical, and obviously were not practical either.
The reality is the hype on the BBC was simply because Obama was black, and having a black President of the nasty racist USA would be nearly as good as having a black President of South Africa was in 1994.
I didn't, and still don't follow US news and politics closely enough to know if the Democrats followed the same line of thinking, but with the expectations heaped on him in 2008 he couldn't help but disappoint the BBC.
You say that he beat a mediocre opponent yet John McCain was and is a national hero in the USA who beat, amongst others, Mitt Romney to win the nomination in 2008.
Obama had grand aspirations and has been a reforming president (to suggest otherwise as you have is ludicrous) who has succeeded where others have failed in delivering a form of universal healthcare and who will have delivered a level of immigration reform by the time he leaves office. He inherited the most toxic economy since the depression yet we have a record stock market, record company profits and the lowest unemployment and highest consumer confidence since before the crash. Unfortunately Obama has been stymied by an obstructive and destructive GOP dominated congress for most of his term who have sought to block most of what he has proposed.
unrepentant said:
Sorry but that's a poor and very uninformed post. You say at the end that you don't follow US politics and that's obvious but given that you accept that you're completely ignorant on the subject why bother to post such drivel?
You say that he beat a mediocre opponent yet John McCain was and is a national hero in the USA who beat, amongst others, Mitt Romney to win the nomination in 2008.
Obama had grand aspirations and has been a reforming president (to suggest otherwise as you have is ludicrous) who has succeeded where others have failed in delivering a form of universal healthcare and who will have delivered a level of immigration reform by the time he leaves office. He inherited the most toxic economy since the depression yet we have a record stock market, record company profits and the lowest unemployment and highest consumer confidence since before the crash. Unfortunately Obama has been stymied by an obstructive and destructive GOP dominated congress for most of his term who have sought to block most of what he has proposed.
Agreed.You say that he beat a mediocre opponent yet John McCain was and is a national hero in the USA who beat, amongst others, Mitt Romney to win the nomination in 2008.
Obama had grand aspirations and has been a reforming president (to suggest otherwise as you have is ludicrous) who has succeeded where others have failed in delivering a form of universal healthcare and who will have delivered a level of immigration reform by the time he leaves office. He inherited the most toxic economy since the depression yet we have a record stock market, record company profits and the lowest unemployment and highest consumer confidence since before the crash. Unfortunately Obama has been stymied by an obstructive and destructive GOP dominated congress for most of his term who have sought to block most of what he has proposed.
I'd add that a lot of the hype was due to how incompetent his predecessor was. People criticise Gordon Brown but the Texan Chimp was much worse.
hidetheelephants said:
Muntu said:
unrepentant said:
She's also the best candidate
Can't argue with that.She has an impressive list of accomplishments too
GCH said:
unrepentant said:
Unfortunately Obama has been stymied by an obstructive and destructive GOP dominated congress for most of his term who have sought to block most of what he has proposed.
That is basically it in a nutshell.It's very odd how this never gets mentioned. Even when people cite it as one of the most productive congressional sessions ever - rubber stamping is quick, who'd have thunk it - though this could equally have been down to there not having been a Kennedy present for the first time since 1947.
Jimbeaux said:
Both houses of Congress was dominated by the Democrats for two years of Obama's first term; why did he not pass whatever he wished then? Why don't we give equal time to the far higher number of bills held up in the Democratic Senate, not even allowed to go to vote by Harry Reid, thus shielding the POTUS from being forced to veto or sign?
A plausible explanation I've read is that Obama spent a lot of his working life as a mediator and has a pathological need to reach compromises that everyone will sign up to; this is obviously a psychological weakness the GoP would not be backward about exploiting. As to why Reid acted as he did there is no similar plausible reason, so it must have been lizards. 
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