Veteran assaulted on way to Remebrance Ceremony

[Esseesse]

smegmore said:

These are not 'immigrants' carrying out this kind of ste.

They are home-grown, mostly the 2nd or 3rd generation progeny of (mainly) mountain village Pakistanis who were given British passports after the end of British rule of the Indian sub continent.

As another poster said earlier, 'what have we allowed into this country'?

Pandora's Box has been well and truly opened and I'm sorry to say that there will be bloodshed in this country before this question is resolved, of that I have no doubt.

You are quite right about many/most being 2nd/3rd generation.

[XJ Flyer]

smegmore said:

Esseesse said:

I was thinking the other day, that after we leave the EU there is a fairly easy solution to deal with nasty immigrants (I am not against the immigration of decent people who are keen to work and importantly keen to be British btw).

We just have to offer generous amounts of money for repatriation. If you think about how much these people cost in police time, and then the fact that there's probably a strong correlation of problem immigrants and joblessness or at least to low paid or black market economy work so they're a net drain on society. Offering £50,000 to leave wouldn't probably see us out of pocket, especially because it's simple and in theory would be cheap to administer. Part of the deal is you couldn't return. The skilled migrants we want (doctors and rocket scientists from Pakistan, India, Africa or where-ever) wouldn't be interested in £50,000 to return to somewhere they don't want to be, where there's no well paying job for them. Same with prison sentences (IIRC it costs more than £20k/year to keep someone), offer them 3 years inside for armed robbery (or whatever you get these days), or the opportunity to take £50k tax free to bugger off and never return.

These are not 'immigrants' carrying out this kind of ste.

They are home-grown, mostly the 2nd or 3rd generation progeny of (mainly) mountain village Pakistanis who were given British passports after the end of British rule of the Indian sub continent.

As another poster said earlier, 'what have we allowed into this country'?

Pandora's Box has been well and truly opened and I'm sorry to say that there will be bloodshed in this country before this question is resolved, of that I have no doubt.

Which can be avoided by the realisation that place of birth doesn't determine ethnic loyalties and nationality.Followed by a policy of repatriation to match.

[jimbop1]

smegmore said:

Keighley, eh?



One wonders which particular variety of Asians this could be. No prizes for guessing BTW.

It's high time the authorities came down hard on these scumbags but don't hold your breath, multi-culturalism trumps all.

What a country this has turned out to be.

Sorry... Your comment offends me beyond belief!! How dare you mention Asians, Multiculturalism and Scumbags in the same breath!

I'm joking of course.

How people still stick up for these 'people' is beyond me!

[smegmore]

XJ Flyer said:

Which can be avoided by the realisation that place of birth doesn't determine ethnic loyalties and nationality.Followed by a policy of repatriation to match.

You're talking crap again.

These scumbags were born in this country. Where exactly are you going to repatriate them to?

I understand the knee-jerk sentiment but the legalities are somewhat different.

Sadly.

[jimbop1]

smegmore said:

XJ Flyer said:

Which can be avoided by the realisation that place of birth doesn't determine ethnic loyalties and nationality.Followed by a policy of repatriation to match.

You're talking crap again.

These scumbags were born in this country. Where exactly are you going to repatriate them to?

I understand the knee-jerk sentiment but the legalities are somewhat different.

Sadly.

They may be born here but which country do they follow?

[XJ Flyer]

smegmore said:

XJ Flyer said:

Which can be avoided by the realisation that place of birth doesn't determine ethnic loyalties and nationality.Followed by a policy of repatriation to match.

You're talking crap again.

These scumbags were born in this country. Where exactly are you going to repatriate them to?

I understand the knee-jerk sentiment but the legalities are somewhat different.

Sadly.

We've already established at least one of the,if not the, applicable countries.What is the big so called legal issue in changing our definition of nationality to jus sanguinis instead of jus soli to be applied retrospectively in the case of national security.All of which is a far better option than the alternative of letting things just go on the way they are inevitably going.

[smegmore]

jimbop1 said:

They may be born here but which country faith do they follow?

Corrected that for you.



IME they will always tell you that they are muslims with a British passport. The idea of nationality or allegiance to any particular country, even their country of birth, is alien to most of them.

edited to add......

Except when it suits them to be British.

Edited by smegmore on Wednesday 12th November 02:06

[XJ Flyer]

smegmore said:

jimbop1 said:

They may be born here but which country faith do they follow?

Corrected that for you.



IME they will always tell you that they are muslims with a British passport. The idea of nationality or allegiance to any particular country, even their country of birth, is alien to most of them.

So what is meant by 'Islamic State'.As for nationality by birth as opposed to descent.

http://english-passport.org/2014/03/23/british-lab...

[smegmore]

I just can't be bothered.

:snore:

[XJ Flyer]

smegmore said:

I just can't be bothered.

:snore:

More like you haven't got any answer to the argument that Pakistan is the Islamic state which those who ( rightly ) consider themselves as British/English born Pakistanis owe their allegiance to.Not Britain/England.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Wednesday 12th November 02:21

[jimbop1]

Have abit of pride in your country. A country that was once the greatest! Not anymore.

It was the 11th day of the 11th month yesterday. Have abit of pride in what they gave up for us. They would turn in their graves if they saw this country now!

[Countdown]

smegmore said:

jogon said:

It had me stumped for a second.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/...

Cultural enrichment for you.

Hells teeth.

Is there no end to the vile primitive practices performed by this shower of stone age morons?

I see that the usual apologists are keeping a low profile on this one.

Not wishing to interrupt the usual "circle jerk" but wtf has Breast Ironing got to do with Muslims?

Edited by Countdown on Wednesday 12th November 05:25

[Esseesse]

XJ Flyer said:

smegmore said:

Esseesse said:

I was thinking the other day, that after we leave the EU there is a fairly easy solution to deal with nasty immigrants (I am not against the immigration of decent people who are keen to work and importantly keen to be British btw).

We just have to offer generous amounts of money for repatriation. If you think about how much these people cost in police time, and then the fact that there's probably a strong correlation of problem immigrants and joblessness or at least to low paid or black market economy work so they're a net drain on society. Offering £50,000 to leave wouldn't probably see us out of pocket, especially because it's simple and in theory would be cheap to administer. Part of the deal is you couldn't return. The skilled migrants we want (doctors and rocket scientists from Pakistan, India, Africa or where-ever) wouldn't be interested in £50,000 to return to somewhere they don't want to be, where there's no well paying job for them. Same with prison sentences (IIRC it costs more than £20k/year to keep someone), offer them 3 years inside for armed robbery (or whatever you get these days), or the opportunity to take £50k tax free to bugger off and never return.

These are not 'immigrants' carrying out this kind of ste.

They are home-grown, mostly the 2nd or 3rd generation progeny of (mainly) mountain village Pakistanis who were given British passports after the end of British rule of the Indian sub continent.

As another poster said earlier, 'what have we allowed into this country'?

Pandora's Box has been well and truly opened and I'm sorry to say that there will be bloodshed in this country before this question is resolved, of that I have no doubt.

Which can be avoided by the realisation that place of birth doesn't determine ethnic loyalties and nationality.Followed by a policy of repatriation to match.

^^^ This was my point really (but I was on my phone last night so couldn't face typing a long reply). Although technically these people are born here and therefore British, their behavior and attitudes are decidedly not British. A prickly situation however (which is why it's not dealt with) because I'm sure these people are in a minority, it's just not small enough a minority. Which is a shame because it gives other good migrants a bad name.

[jogon]

Countdown said:

Not wishing to interrupt the usual "circle jerk" but wtf has Breast Ironing got to do with Muslims?

Edited by Countdown on Wednesday 12th November 05:25

Read the article. It sounds like a rather extreme solution to preventing what we have heard going on in Rotherham and other culturally enriched parts of the UK.

[Countdown]

jogon said:

Countdown said:

Not wishing to interrupt the usual "circle jerk" but wtf has Breast Ironing got to do with Muslims?

Edited by Countdown on Wednesday 12th November 05:25

Read the article. It sounds like a rather extreme solution to preventing what we have heard going on in Rotherham and other culturally enriched parts of the UK.

I've read the article. It appears to be some weird practice carried out in Cameroon, in Central Africa. As far as I can see it has no links to muslims, or immigrants, or Rotherham, or any other part of the UK.

But yeah....muslims innit

[jogon]

Countdown said:

I've read the article. It appears to be some weird practice carried out in Cameroon, in Central Africa. As far as I can see it has no links to muslims, or immigrants, or Rotherham, or any other part of the UK.

But yeah....muslims innit

Only 69% of the population innit

[jimbop1]

Countdown said:

I've read the article. It appears to be some weird practice carried out in Cameroon, in Central Africa. As far as I can see it has no links to muslims, or immigrants, or Rotherham, or any other part of the UK.

But yeah....muslims innit

Your deluded.

[supersingle]

Countdown said:

smegmore said:

jogon said:

It had me stumped for a second.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/...

Cultural enrichment for you.

Hells teeth.

Is there no end to the vile primitive practices performed by this shower of stone age morons?

I see that the usual apologists are keeping a low profile on this one.

Not wishing to interrupt the usual "circle jerk" but wtf has Breast Ironing got to do with Muslims?

Edited by Countdown on Wednesday 12th November 05:25

No comment on the veteran then? Thought not.

[Countdown]

jogon said:

Countdown said:

I've read the article. It appears to be some weird practice carried out in Cameroon, in Central Africa. As far as I can see it has no links to muslims, or immigrants, or Rotherham, or any other part of the UK.

But yeah....muslims innit

Only 69% of the population innit

Yep - definitely muslim.

Wiki said:

Breast ironing is practiced in all ten regions of Cameroon and has also been reported across West and Central Africa, in Benin, Chad, Ivory Coast, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea-Conakry, Kenya, Togo and Zimbabwe. Breast "sweeping" has been reported in South Africa. All of Cameroon's 200 ethnic groups engage in breast ironing,[7] with no known relation to religion, socio-economic status, or any other identifier.

[Countdown]

supersingle said:

No comment on the veteran then? Thought not.

As I said suggested earlier on you were having such a good time that I didn't really want to interrupt but, since you ask, here are my thoughts.

Gangs of scrotes hanging round in parks isn't unusual. Gangs of scrotes hanging around attacking individuals (who can't defend themselves) isn't unusual. This happened in a predominantly asian area. If it had happened in a predominantly white or black area there would have been a strong likelihood that the gang would have been white or black. The colour or background of the gang is irrelevant - they need catching and they need a good slap.

Or maybe they need their breasts ironed? I don't know.