Veteran assaulted on way to Remebrance Ceremony
Discussion
smegmore said:
XJ Flyer said:
Which can be avoided by the realisation that place of birth doesn't determine ethnic loyalties and nationality.Followed by a policy of repatriation to match.
You're talking crap again.These scumbags were born in this country. Where exactly are you going to repatriate them to?
I understand the knee-jerk sentiment but the legalities are somewhat different.
Sadly.
This is a british problem and Britain needs to deal with it.
They are British people.
oyster said:
There's nothing sad about it at all.
This is a british problem and Britain needs to deal with it.
They are British people.
Exactly. This is a british problem and Britain needs to deal with it.
They are British people.
I'm English. I was born here, I've grown up here. My parents and siblings weren't. That doesn't make me less English.
Fifteen years ago as a Policeman I used to have to break the bad news to some people... I'd have asked where they were from and they'd reply 'Pakistan innit' only to find that they were actually born and raised in the West Midlands, they seemed disappointed to be told that uninspiring as it was they were just like me, English.
If we apply the current laws fairly and treat illegal cultural practices as crimes, we can still fix this.
Anyone talking about repatriation of English people like myself to somewhere their parents came from is more backward than the Taliban.
Countdown said:
supersingle said:
No comment on the veteran then? Thought not.
As I said suggested earlier on you were having such a good time that I didn't really want to interrupt but, since you ask, here are my thoughts.Gangs of scrotes hanging round in parks isn't unusual. Gangs of scrotes hanging around attacking individuals (who can't defend themselves) isn't unusual. This happened in a predominantly asian area. If it had happened in a predominantly white or black area there would have been a strong likelihood that the gang would have been white or black. The colour or background of the gang is irrelevant - they need catching and they need a good slap.
Or maybe they need their breasts ironed? I don't know.
These kids are taught from birth to despise the indigenous people and culture of these isles. It's a sad state of affairs and it's getting worse every year. It will not end well.
brenflys777 said:
oyster said:
There's nothing sad about it at all.
This is a british problem and Britain needs to deal with it.
They are British people.
Exactly. This is a british problem and Britain needs to deal with it.
They are British people.
I'm English. I was born here, I've grown up here. My parents and siblings weren't. That doesn't make me less English.
Fifteen years ago as a Policeman I used to have to break the bad news to some people... I'd have asked where they were from and they'd reply 'Pakistan innit' only to find that they were actually born and raised in the West Midlands, they seemed disappointed to be told that uninspiring as it was they were just like me, English.
If we apply the current laws fairly and treat illegal cultural practices as crimes, we can still fix this.
Anyone talking about repatriation of English people like myself to somewhere their parents came from is more backward than the Taliban.
Guam said:
Ph is the font of all knowledge I had never heard of this practice before today 
I'd never heard of it before either. With regards to "PH being the font of all knowledge"; when people are linking "Breast Ironing" to a mugging in Keighley I'm not sure how evenly that knowledge is distributed.Esseesse said:
brenflys777 said:
Anyone talking about repatriation of English people like myself to somewhere their parents came from is more backward than the Taliban.
I don't think anybody is suggesting anything of the sort about people that identify themselves as English or British."Pak.. erm England innit"
"Were you going to say Pakistan?"
"No definitely England"
"OK then, but don't let me see you in a Pakistan cricket shirt again."
Always concerns when a 'British' man has been killed fighting for the Jizzhadis in Syria, or imprisoned in Cuba, or has beheaded a soldier in Woolwich or tried to blow up a plane but then you see their picture and their very unEnglish name.
Also how come, as a reasonably hard working UK citizen, is it so hard for me to move to the US or Australia yet all and sundry are welcomed here?
I have no problem with immigrants who need to prove their worth to the UK as we have to if we want to live and work in, say the US.
Also how come, as a reasonably hard working UK citizen, is it so hard for me to move to the US or Australia yet all and sundry are welcomed here?
I have no problem with immigrants who need to prove their worth to the UK as we have to if we want to live and work in, say the US.
Countdown said:
Guam said:
Ph is the font of all knowledge I had never heard of this practice before today
I'd never heard of it before either. With regards to "PH being the font of all knowledge"; when people are linking "Breast Ironing" to a mugging in Keighley I'm not sure how evenly that knowledge is distributed.supersingle said:
These kids are taught from birth to despise the indigenous people and culture of these isles. It's a sad state of affairs and it's getting worse every year. It will not end well.
I don't despise the indigenous people or the culture so I guess I missed that particular class. I do have a fair amount of contempt for uneducated morons though.I appreciate that linking this attack to "muslims" sends "some" people into joyous paroxysms of onanism. Personally I doubt it was anything more than a bunch of pricks attacking an old man.
Countdown said:
supersingle said:
These kids are taught from birth to despise the indigenous people and culture of these isles. It's a sad state of affairs and it's getting worse every year. It will not end well.
I don't despise the indigenous people or the culture so I guess I missed that particular class. I do have a fair amount of contempt for uneducated morons though.I appreciate that linking this attack to "muslims" sends "some" people into joyous paroxysms of onanism. Personally I doubt it was anything more than a bunch of pricks attacking an old man.
Countdown said:
I don't despise the indigenous people or the culture
You have been banned from a thread in the past for making racist comments about English people, the thread was then deleted. I fully expect you to deny this but you know exactly what I'm talking about, as do the others involved in that thread and the moderator who banned you and removed the thread.
supersingle said:
Being British is a nationality. Anyone can have it if they get the passport. Being English is an ethnicity, like being Bantu, Persian, Thai or Arab. You're born into it and nothing can change it.
At one stage these ethnic Englishmen and women you speak of were obviously not English because they didn't reside here. So how long before someone's family actually becomes English? 50 years, 100 years, 500 years? Or can someone of foreign heritage never become English even if their ancestors moved here 1000 years ago?Countdown said:
I don't despise the indigenous people or the culture so I guess I missed that particular class. I do have a fair amount of contempt for uneducated morons though.
Do you condemn the poppy protests? Do you wear a poppy?Countdown said:
I appreciate that linking this attack to "muslims" sends "some" people into joyous paroxysms of onanism. Personally I doubt it was anything more than a bunch of pricks attacking an old man.
Yes the same was said when a gang systematically raped their way through the children of Rotherham. They said the same when being radicalized was discussed after Fussiler Rigbey was killed. They said he same after the 7th July 2005 attacks. It is amazing how some communities manage to stick their heads up their own arse's and deny any knowledge, responsibility or blame.How very dare anyone mention the ethnic
BlackLabel said:
supersingle said:
Being British is a nationality. Anyone can have it if they get the passport. Being English is an ethnicity, like being Bantu, Persian, Thai or Arab. You're born into it and nothing can change it.
At one stage these ethnic Englishmen and women you speak of were obviously not English because they didn't reside here. So how long before someone's family actually becomes English? 50 years, 100 years, 500 years? Or can someone of foreign heritage never become English even if their ancestors moved here 1000 years ago?Immigrants from 500 years ago are so mixed that their ancestry is homogenised into the host. We don't see someone as a Huguenot or a Norman because we share that ancestry. But if an ethnic group remains distinct then the divide remains. Look at the middle East; Jews, Arabs, Persians, Assyrians and so on. All separate and distinct and willing to let you know they are!
Eric Mc said:
Where does that leave those from Scotland, Ireland, Wales, the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands etc etc etc?
but the Scots are Scots the Welsh are definitely Welsh and so on but the English its almost a dirty word these days and I do think its because the far right stole the flag and the identity of the English I don't have a pair of Doc martins and my hair isn't cropped but I am still English.I live in an area which is quite old fashioned with lots of older people I have also lived in Wandsworth,Battersea and Chiswick ,I know where I prefer to be.
I know this old chap would not have been attacked here
anonymous said:
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It is a world of difference from towns like Ilkley, just over the hill from Keighley.It is so deprived, the big issues include childhood nutritional deficiencies (including rickets re-emerging due to lack sunlight exposure on highly covered children/diet (local GP's words, not mine)) and poverty levels so low that some mothers cannot even afford the bus fair to go to hospital for pre-natal scans (combined with some groups being so untrusting of Western hospitals that they won't "allow" the mother to go".
All combined with "enclaves" of residents self-segregating by country / regional heritage, low literacy and significant education challenges.
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