Rochester By-Election. Consequences of UKIP Win on Tory/Lab
Discussion
Hol said:
Considering that the SNP are expected to pick up all their votes from traditional scottish labour voters. (Labour losing out 1:1)
Then its no certain that a Labour/SNP coalition will have the chance of a majority, or even certain that Labour alone will therefore have more votes than any other single political party (and first dibs in trying to put together a coalition).
It would be interesting to see who UKIP would join in a coalition with any seat they do get, as they are expected to pick up votes from across all the other parties.
I wouldn't be surprised if for every seat they gain in Scotland they lose one in the north of England. This would make things very interesting indeed.....Then its no certain that a Labour/SNP coalition will have the chance of a majority, or even certain that Labour alone will therefore have more votes than any other single political party (and first dibs in trying to put together a coalition).
It would be interesting to see who UKIP would join in a coalition with any seat they do get, as they are expected to pick up votes from across all the other parties.
Hol said:
It would be interesting to see who UKIP would join in a coalition with any seat they do get, as they are expected to pick up votes from across all the other parties.
From what has been suggested so far I can't see UKIP wanting to form a coalition with anyone. However I can see them supporting a minority government of any party providing they get support for the things they want (a referendum sooner rather than later IIRC).Esseesse said:
Hol said:
It would be interesting to see who UKIP would join in a coalition with any seat they do get, as they are expected to pick up votes from across all the other parties.
From what has been suggested so far I can't see UKIP wanting to form a coalition with anyone. However I can see them supporting a minority government of any party providing they get support for the things they want (a referendum sooner rather than later IIRC).That is effectively when the Libs did last time.
Its also how it works in places like Germany, when coalitions are the norm.
Given the lead in all the polls on Rochester shown for UKIP of more than 12% if Reckless does not get returned the pollsters will be out of a job. A margin of error as great as that would nullify the reason for polls. For some months now I think UK politics has demonstrated a visible change of mood in the electorate. Matters such as excessive immigration and the like are now being admitted and discussed.
Quite where Cameron and Co will go with this is an interesting question. Milliband and Co are dead ducks I hope. The shrill screams of the awful Yvette Cooper serve mainly to remind us all exactly why we would prefer to vote elsewhere. 2015 is going to be a watershed year politically I think. Major changes will follow IMO. Not before time. Membership of the EU must be an open question if UKIP produce two by election results this challenging one after another. I suspect much of the future of the UK politically will fall into the hands of Nigel Farage.
Quite where Cameron and Co will go with this is an interesting question. Milliband and Co are dead ducks I hope. The shrill screams of the awful Yvette Cooper serve mainly to remind us all exactly why we would prefer to vote elsewhere. 2015 is going to be a watershed year politically I think. Major changes will follow IMO. Not before time. Membership of the EU must be an open question if UKIP produce two by election results this challenging one after another. I suspect much of the future of the UK politically will fall into the hands of Nigel Farage.
crankedup said:
We only need to glance across to some of our E.U. partners to see what could be in store for us, the dismissal of established Parties in favour of the untried variety. Lots of people will say that the Country has been f*cked over by the established two parties during the past 50 years, something I tend to agree with.
If the silent majority decide to vote this time around (about 60% of population?) who knows where we may end up and who governs us.
Farage now has an open goal and holding the balance of power after the general election instead of the Lidems is UKIP's to lose.In view of which I think not backing Reckless' obvious views concerning the immigration issue in the face of media pressure was a stupid mistake. If the silent majority decide to vote this time around (about 60% of population?) who knows where we may end up and who governs us.
Esseesse said:
GetCarter said:
Axionknight said:
GetCarter said:
Reckless ... says it all.
Tell us how.Despite it being from the (pretty useless) guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/19/uki...
Top shop tosser.
ETA..God help us all if people like this get to rule.
Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 20th November 15:37
Have a listen to Kelly Tollhurst, Tory PPC for Rochester and Strood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqa4Yduikc
jogon said:
Have a listen to Kelly Tollhurst, Tory PPC for Rochester and Strood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqa4Yduikc
Wow. UkIP will storm this if that's the best the Tory's have to offer.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff