Rochester By-Election. Consequences of UKIP Win on Tory/Lab

[jogon]

GetCarter said:

Wow. UkIP will storm this if that's the best the Tory's have to offer.

If a UKIP candidate had an interview like that while mentioning people moving from Bristol to Rochester would be barred from housing etc it would have been front page on every paper and top slot on BBC 10pm news. This was swept under the carpet weeks ago.

[GetCarter]

Einion Yrth said:

GetCarter said:

Don't get me wrong. Hate the current lot!

If I was you I'd be a little more worried about the fascist party that is the SNP.

We defended the first wave.

[Andy Zarse]

jogon said:

Have a listen to Kelly Tollhurst, Tory PPC for Rochester and Strood - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gkqa4Yduikc

And see what property baron Lady Nugee, Labour's MP for Islington South, thinks about the ghastly common working class folk of Rochester...

http://order-order.com/2014/11/20/islington-mps-ro...

[jogon]

Andy Zarse said:

And see what property baron Lady Nugee, Labour's MP for Islington South, thinks about the ghastly common working class folk of Rochester...

http://order-order.com/2014/11/20/islington-mps-ro...

Brilliant. @EmilyThornberry Hold on love. Are you a Labour MP or Hyacinth Bucket? - Sunday Sport.

[carinaman]

The Tweet from the Sunday Sport made me titter.

[crankedup]

XJ Flyer said:

crankedup said:

We only need to glance across to some of our E.U. partners to see what could be in store for us, the dismissal of established Parties in favour of the untried variety. Lots of people will say that the Country has been f*cked over by the established two parties during the past 50 years, something I tend to agree with.
If the silent majority decide to vote this time around (about 60% of population?) who knows where we may end up and who governs us.

Farage now has an open goal and holding the balance of power after the general election instead of the Lidems is UKIP's to lose.In view of which I think not backing Reckless' obvious views concerning the immigration issue in the face of media pressure was a stupid mistake.

The question I suppose is just who will be the majority holding the power balance in the next coalition?
My lot have blown out, unless some form of a miracle occurs on the scale of the parting of the sea.

[Hol]

jogon said:

If a UKIP candidate had an interview like that while mentioning people moving from Bristol to Rochester would be barred from housing etc it would have been front page on every paper and top slot on BBC 10pm news. This was swept under the carpet weeks ago.

I think Claudia Skies comes from Bristol.
AND 'something' has upset her.

Claudia Skies said:

Remember, the only opinions you'll find in Rochester/Strood are chav opinions. Weird place.

It must be really-really grim in Bristol, for people to consider moving.

[Andy Zarse]

crankedup said:

We only need to glance across to some of our E.U. partners to see what could be in store for us, the dismissal of established Parties in favour of the untried variety. Lots of people will say that the Country has been f*cked over by the established two parties during the past 50 years, something I tend to agree with.

What of the LibDems, surely they have helped fk up the country over the last five years? They have certainly put several spanners in the parliamentary wheel and stopped many of the issues that need tackling.

Also, what of the damage caused by Liberal coalition with Labour in the 70's, propping up the lame duck Callaghan administration which was waddling in completely the wrong direction. This caused massive damage the UK plc and ultimately led us to the IMF cap in hand.

Do they not deserve their share of your excoriation? Or are they a 50 year irrelevance?

[Axionknight]

If they aren't already, they'll become one soon enough,

[mrpurple]

Andy Zarse said:

What of the LibDems, surely they have helped fk up the country over the last five years? They have certainly put several spanners in the parliamentary wheel and stopped many of the issues that need tackling.

Also, what of the damage caused by Liberal coalition with Labour in the 70's, propping up the lame duck Callaghan administration which was waddling in completely the wrong direction. This caused massive damage the UK plc and ultimately led us to the IMF cap in hand.

Do they not deserve their share of your excoriation? Or are they a 50 year irrelevance?

Libdems...who are they?

[Axionknight]

Just some tin pot party that sold themselves and their principles down the river for a sniff of power.

[mrpurple]

Axionknight said:

Just some tin pot party that sold themselves and their principles down the river for a sniff of power.

A good lesson for UKIP to learn from I hope.

[XJ Flyer]

Andy Zarse said:

crankedup said:

We only need to glance across to some of our E.U. partners to see what could be in store for us, the dismissal of established Parties in favour of the untried variety. Lots of people will say that the Country has been f*cked over by the established two parties during the past 50 years, something I tend to agree with.

Also, what of the damage caused by Liberal coalition with Labour in the 70's, propping up the lame duck Callaghan administration which was waddling in completely the wrong direction. This caused massive damage the UK plc and ultimately led us to the IMF cap in hand.

Do they not deserve their share of your excoriation? Or are they a 50 year irrelevance?

Just like today the common link being the LabLibdemCon cross party pro EU alliance which is what united them all.It was actually Heath and his Cons,later supported by Thatcher,who kicked off the chain of events that crashed the 1970's economy.By turning a trade surplus with Europe into a deficit and paying an absolute fortune in contributions for the privilege in addition to the loss of sovereignty.By that standard the Cons had more in common with the Libdems than Labour at the time which at least tried to put up a fight within the Party to try to kick out its pro EU tendency.While Powell ( rightly and unsurprisingly ) obviously decided to just give up on the Cons.Being that in the case of looking after the country's interests the Cons were/are no better than the Libdems.

History is now repeating itself in the form of the anti EU side of the Labour vote allying with,what is effectively,a rebel anti EU splinter group of the Conservatives in the form of UKIP.Which just leaves the question can Farage fill Powell's shoes.

While unfortunately Labour,like the Cons and the Libdems,is still the lost cause which it has been ever since its pro EU tendency took over the Party in the form of Wilson and Callaghan followed by Blair and Brown.

[crankedup]

Andy Zarse said:

crankedup said:

We only need to glance across to some of our E.U. partners to see what could be in store for us, the dismissal of established Parties in favour of the untried variety. Lots of people will say that the Country has been f*cked over by the established two parties during the past 50 years, something I tend to agree with.

What of the LibDems, surely they have helped fk up the country over the last five years? They have certainly put several spanners in the parliamentary wheel and stopped many of the issues that need tackling.

Also, what of the damage caused by Liberal coalition with Labour in the 70's, propping up the lame duck Callaghan administration which was waddling in completely the wrong direction. This caused massive damage the UK plc and ultimately led us to the IMF cap in hand.

Do they not deserve their share of your excoriation? Or are they a 50 year irrelevance?

Democracy at work, simple isn't it!

[Esseesse]

XJ Flyer said:

Just like today the common link being the LabLibdemCon cross party pro EU alliance which is what united them all.It was actually Heath and his Cons,later supported by Thatcher,who kicked off the chain of events that crashed the 1970's economy.By turning a trade surplus with Europe into a deficit and paying an absolute fortune in contributions for the privilege in addition to the loss of sovereignty.By that standard the Cons had more in common with the Libdems than Labour at the time which at least tried to put up a fight within the Party to try to kick out its pro EU tendency.While Powell ( rightly and unsurprisingly ) obviously decided to just give up on the Cons.Being that in the case of looking after the country's interests the Cons were/are no better than the Libdems.

History is now repeating itself in the form of the anti EU side of the Labour vote allying with,what is effectively,a rebel anti EU splinter group of the Conservatives in the form of UKIP.Which just leaves the question can Farage fill Powell's shoes.

While unfortunately Labour,like the Cons and the Libdems,is still the lost cause which it has been ever since its pro EU tendency took over the Party in the form of Wilson and Callaghan followed by Blair and Brown.

This is a good documentary of all this historical EU/UK stuff... http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7E2243A0D0C...

[jbswagger]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30139832

Labour's Emily Thornberry quits over tweet

[Axionknight]

But presumably doesn't step down as an MP? No mention of that in the article.

[davepoth]

Axionknight said:

But presumably doesn't step down as an MP? No mention of that in the article.

Of course not. That would require actual contrition.

[IanMorewood]

Would be an interesting by election if she did resign as an MP. Think her majority of 3500 would be slashed although I'm not sure Labour would loose the seat.

[BlackLabel]

"I will continue to fly the flags - I don't care who it pisses off'.



https://mobile.twitter.com/Telegraph/status/535566...

Farage should invite him round for a pint tomorrow, would be a great photo op.