Rochester By-Election. Consequences of UKIP Win on Tory/Lab

[BlackLabel]

Ouch. Great result for the Tories though, Labour have stolen the headlines.

[Esseesse]

BlackLabel said:

Ouch. Great result for the Tories though, Labour have stolen the headlines.

Unlikely but it sounds like there's an outside chance of another defection headline soon.

[brenflys777]

BlackLabel said:

Ouch. Great result for the Tories though, Labour have stolen the headlines.

Whilst Labour ( or cons/Libs ) are only here for the sneers, Nigel Farage reminds me of the late great racing driver Gerry Marshall - Only here for the beers!

[Mr_B]

Way to go Emily. I think she just lost Labour a huge chunk voters, mostly from more old Labour types north of Islington who wonder what the hell snobs like her a Chuka Umunna are doing pretending to be Labour MPs.

[Axionknight]

The result won't be announced until 3:30-4am according to officials, I'm in Houston so that's only 22:00 here so I'll do my best to update the topics as the results come in.

[YankeePorker]

Less than 51% voter turnout? For a by-election that's been getting plenty of national press that seems pretty pathetic to me. Does it mean that the LibLabCon voters said "Sod it, there's no point bothering, it'll be kipper anyway!"?

[XJ Flyer]

YankeePorker said:

Less than 51% voter turnout? For a by-election that's been getting plenty of national press that seems pretty pathetic to me. Does it mean that the LibLabCon voters said "Sod it, there's no point bothering, it'll be kipper anyway!"?

Probably a combination of potential Conservative voters knowing that a vote for Cameron is as bad as a vote for Clegg or Miliband but still won't vote for what they think might threaten the cheap labour immigration agenda.With the potential Labour swing to UKIP deciding that the jury is still out as to wether Farage is really the new Powell which the country so badly needs.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 21st November 03:15

[Yazar]

yup- Lab/Lib didn't bother putting much effort in. Miliband for example just failed to support the candidate at all so he didn't look weak.

Tory MP's from Media accounts did the minimum they were forced to - William Hague according to one paper turned up and knocked on exactly 10 doors (of which not all were in) and then caught the train back to London!

[XJ Flyer]

Yazar said:

Tory MP's from Media accounts did the minimum they were forced to - William Hague according to one paper turned up and knocked on exactly 10 doors (of which not all were in) and then caught the train back to London!

According to Farage Cameron threw the kitchen sink and possibly the bathroom at it.The arrogant comments of the Con who jumped ship to UKIP then jumped back again say it all.Probably because he is actually more or less a self confessed Europhile and is obviously offering exactly the same thing as Wilson was offering in 1975.

[Axionknight]

UKIP candidate for the Peninsula Ward by election, Chris Irvine, has won that election:

UKIP: 2850
Conservative: 1965
Labour: 716
Greens: 314
Lib Dems: 60

Poor turnout, not sure on the percentage. Still awaiting the main by election results.

[Yazar]

Axionknight said:

UKIP candidate for the Peninsula Ward by election, Chris Irvine, has won that election:

UKIP: 2850
Conservative: 1965
Labour: 716
Greens: 314
Lib Dems: 60

Poor turnout, not sure on the percentage. Still awaiting the main by election results.

UKIP - 48.3% (+48.3)
CON - 33.3% (-20.9)
LAB - 12.1% (-8.5)
GRN - 5.3% (-2.1)
LDEM - 1.0% (-5.3)

[AJS-]

If those results are reflected in the by election the Lib Dems could be into triple figures!

[XJ Flyer]

Axionknight said:

UKIP candidate for the Peninsula Ward by election, Chris Irvine, has won that election:

UKIP: 2850
Conservative: 1965
Labour: 716
Greens: 314
Lib Dems: 60

On the basis of the Cons plans to concrete over the south east just like Labour before them.No surprise that the establishment then want the views of the local population ignored in that regard.Rather than sharing the nation's development demand on a more equitable basis around the country not just keep putting ever more in the south east.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 21st November 03:38

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 21st November 03:57

[Axionknight]

I have to agree 100%, I appreciate that London and its surrounding areas generate a lot of revenue for the UK, but it has been decades since a government has been anything other than London centric, having disregarded investment in many parts of the country where it was sorely needed.

[XJ Flyer]

Axionknight said:

I have to agree 100%, I appreciate that London and its surrounding areas generate a lot of revenue for the UK, but it has been decades since a government has been anything other than London centric, having disregarded investment in many parts of the country where it was sorely needed.

The arrogance of the Cons and Neil in that regard is staggering considering that the Cons stood on an anti development mandate in the south east at the last election.Obviously the idea of the electorate dictating terms to their elected councillors and MP's is something that UKIP are happy with.Unlike the Cons who are obviously all about vice versa just like Labour.The problem in this case being the historic policy of London seeing the surrounding counties as a building site and dumping ground for its unsustainable rate of inward population growth.Not London centric.If George Eustace is so keen on development then maybe he should volunteer to build some major new towns in his constituency in Cornwall.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 21st November 03:49

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 21st November 04:08

[Axionknight]

Counting done, result is 5 minutes away!

[Yazar]

'Britain Elects' saying their source at count suggests UKIP will take 42% and the Conservatives 34%

source

[Axionknight]

Results are in:

UKIP: 16,867 (MAJORITY 2,920).
Conservative: 13,947

Edited by Axionknight on Friday 21st November 04:21

[Yazar]

Not bad for the 271st most winnable UKIP seat.

UKIP - 42.0% (+42.0)
CON - 34.8% (-14.4)
LAB - 16.7% (-11.7)
GRN - 4.2% (+2.7)



source

Edited by Yazar on Friday 21st November 04:26

[Magog]

349 votes for the lib dems. ouch