Just another £1.2 Billion to fix the NHS?

[MartG]

Croutons said:

Convenient pre-Autumn statement leak (or perhaps briefing) to the Telegraph says George will give em £2bn more next year. Nice Labour outflank, no info on which money tree is dropping it for him.

I wonder if that £2Bn was calculated in the same way that he 'halved' the recent EU bill ?

[andymadmak]

MartG said:

Croutons said:

Convenient pre-Autumn statement leak (or perhaps briefing) to the Telegraph says George will give em £2bn more next year. Nice Labour outflank, no info on which money tree is dropping it for him.

I wonder if that £2Bn was calculated in the same way that he 'halved' the recent EU bill ?

Aye.. Either way it's the wrong way to go about this imho. 1.2 Billion, 2 Billion, it's all nonsense unless the basic issues that ensure that the NHS is always in crisis are grasped and dealt with. Sadly our politicians (of all colours) are too cowardly to do what needs to be done, and too focussed on using the NHS as a political football instead. Osbourne just went down in my opinion.

[BlackLabel]

spectator said:

It emerged this morning that Labour MPs took the extraordinary step of blocking the publication of the Health Select Committee report into the NHS – because the conclusions backed up government reforms. I have just been handed details of this report, and it’s clear why Labour wanted it suppressed: it contradicts the party’s attack message. Here are the main points:

No sweeping privatisations: there has been little increase in private sector providers since 2010.
Nor has there been an extension of charges or top-ups during the current parliament, and that these are not planned.
Less red tape: a general trend of declining administration costs in the NHS.
No evidence that the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership poses a threat to the NHS.

The Labour members of the committee tabled 52 amendments either objecting to the way the report was worded as well as edits to punctuation and spelling. The majority of these came from Valerie Vaz, who refused to sign up to the report as drafted.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/03/exclusive-the-nhs-report-that-labour-tried-to-block/

[NicD]

BlackLabel said:

spectator said:

The majority of these came from Valerie Vaz, who refused to sign up to the report as drafted.

runs in the family

Her younger brother is Keith Vaz

[Sir Humphrey]

CamMoreRon said:

But this would happen (and does) with any private organisation! For example, I recently had to go (primarily as a PR thing) to the very south of Germany to speak with a customer. I was flown to Zurich, where I rented a car, and went for a drive through beautiful southern Germany to a small alpine village. Of course, all of this was paid for by the company I work for.

I know you weren't suggesting that a private NHS would be any different, but I think it's important to note how the private sector "wastes" their money in very similar ways. I don't think anyone would bat an eyelid if I went for a 50 mile jaunt.. I could probably go for one this afternoon if I wanted to.

If a private company wastes that money then the customers have a choice to give their money to someone else. If the NHS wastes money you don't have that option.

[Eclassy]

Someone has evidence of a Manager on the NHS who is milking it probably in cahoot with his line manager who signs off the time sheet. His invoice for last week was £10,000! and he claimed to have done 99 hours. This person was already on a decent £750/day contract but has somehow manage to start including overtime.

Investigation of his invoices for the last 3 months show he was paid for working on Xmas, Boxing and News years day. Issues like this have been raised with the internal fraud team in the past but nothing ever came of it.

Anyone know where this can be escalated to for action to be taken?

[Du1point8]

Eclassy said:

Someone has evidence of a Manager on the NHS who is milking it probably in cahoot with his line manager who signs off the time sheet. His invoice for last week was £10,000! and he claimed to have done 99 hours. This person was already on a decent £750/day contract but has somehow manage to start including overtime.

Investigation of his invoices for the last 3 months show he was paid for working on Xmas, Boxing and News years day. Issues like this have been raised with the internal fraud team in the past but nothing ever came of it.

Anyone know where this can be escalated to for action to be taken?

Pretty certain sending that info to the newspapers would be a damn good start.

I hate it when private sector plays by the rules as people are answerable to someone, yet this kind of crap is ignored and classed as acceptable in public sector.

[Guybrush]

Du1point8 said:

Eclassy said:

Someone has evidence of a Manager on the NHS who is milking it probably in cahoot with his line manager who signs off the time sheet. His invoice for last week was £10,000! and he claimed to have done 99 hours. This person was already on a decent £750/day contract but has somehow manage to start including overtime.

Investigation of his invoices for the last 3 months show he was paid for working on Xmas, Boxing and News years day. Issues like this have been raised with the internal fraud team in the past but nothing ever came of it.

Anyone know where this can be escalated to for action to be taken?

Pretty certain sending that info to the newspapers would be a damn good start.

I hate it when private sector plays by the rules as people are answerable to someone, yet this kind of crap is ignored and classed as acceptable in public sector.

A prime example of why the NHS is effectively an uncontrolled money black hole. Too may 'senior' roles, non-medical penpushers and so on. As the PH survey says - 'radical reform' is required. More money doesn't seem to reach the front line.

[mph1977]

Guybrush said:

Du1point8 said:

Eclassy said:

Someone has evidence of a Manager on the NHS who is milking it probably in cahoot with his line manager who signs off the time sheet. His invoice for last week was £10,000! and he claimed to have done 99 hours. This person was already on a decent £750/day contract but has somehow manage to start including overtime.

Investigation of his invoices for the last 3 months show he was paid for working on Xmas, Boxing and News years day. Issues like this have been raised with the internal fraud team in the past but nothing ever came of it.

Anyone know where this can be escalated to for action to be taken?

Pretty certain sending that info to the newspapers would be a damn good start.

I hate it when private sector plays by the rules as people are answerable to someone, yet this kind of crap is ignored and classed as acceptable in public sector.

A prime example of why the NHS is effectively an uncontrolled money black hole. Too may 'senior' roles, non-medical penpushers and so on. As the PH survey says - 'radical reform' is required. More money doesn't seem to reach the front line.

there are only two groups of people who don;t agree this ;

NHS middle and senior managers - in a turkeys suggesting ' why not try roast beef for christmas this time ' shocker

Unison / Unite - becasue a lot of their ex convenors etc do very well out of middle management and current convenors and reps manage to avoid an awful lot of their actualwork on 'facility time'