Crumbling Westminster = £3bn +. What should we do ? Poll..

Crumbling Westminster = £3bn +. What should we do ? Poll..

Poll: Crumbling Westminster = £3bn +. What should we do ? Poll..

Total Members Polled: 470

Work around the MPs during restore: 17%
Temporarily move Parliament during restore: 34%
Build new Parl, open Westminster to visitors: 41%
Clever joke answer here...: 9%
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Hosenbugler

1,854 posts

103 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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paolow said:
REALIST123 said:
I do trust that they'll obtain 3 separate quotes for the work.

Are we having a sweep on what the final cost will be? £3B, current estimate; I'll plump for £6.75B.

Edited to add that I now see there are already official estimates up to £5.7B; I'll go for £9B.
This is the bit that is really scary - with English Heritage knowing the cheque is effectively blank along with all the complexities they will find that they didnt know about - this could end up costing a terrifying sum of money....
Thats not unrealistic, apparently the type of Stone needed for at least part of the restoration, is only found in one particualr quarry.

This is an interesting read

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1076568...

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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Wot, no nuke from orbit?

Hosenbugler said:
paolow said:
REALIST123 said:
I do trust that they'll obtain 3 separate quotes for the work.

Are we having a sweep on what the final cost will be? £3B, current estimate; I'll plump for £6.75B.

Edited to add that I now see there are already official estimates up to £5.7B; I'll go for £9B.
This is the bit that is really scary - with English Heritage knowing the cheque is effectively blank along with all the complexities they will find that they didnt know about - this could end up costing a terrifying sum of money....
Thats not unrealistic, apparently the type of Stone needed for at least part of the restoration, is only found in one particualr quarry.

This is an interesting read

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1076568...
Having had throughout my career involvements with local authorities their capacity to waste money through over complication and a basic assumption that they have a bottomles pit is staggering.

The palace of westminister must be worth a staggering amount as lux apartments/hotels etc, I'm sure the plot would go a long way if you negotiated that a new purpose built parliment is built in exchange for it, and to be fair with all todays terorism/security issues a new build would probably be much better suited to the task. Stick a building in the corner of st james park, making extensive use of secure underground facilities with multiple entrances/exits, replace the robbed parkland with some garden bridges or reclaimed land elsewhere, prob solved. Next.

ianrb

1,536 posts

141 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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hairyben said:
Having had throughout my career involvements with local authorities their capacity to waste money through over complication and a basic assumption that they have a bottomles pit is staggering.

The palace of westminister must be worth a staggering amount as lux apartments/hotels etc, I'm sure the plot would go a long way if you negotiated that a new purpose built parliment is built in exchange for it, and to be fair with all todays terorism/security issues a new build would probably be much better suited to the task. Stick a building in the corner of st james park, making extensive use of secure underground facilities with multiple entrances/exits, replace the robbed parkland with some garden bridges or reclaimed land elsewhere, prob solved. Next.
Broadly I agree with you. But land prices around St James (assume you mean the one in London) must be pretty steep. Instead why not relocate the lot to Middlesbrough? I'm sure that would help MPs focus a bit more.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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And the answer is........


“MPs have voted to move Parliament to another location for what is likely to be six years while a major restoration of the Palace of Westminster is carried out.

In a surprise move, the House of Commons narrowly rejected government proposals that would have delayed a final decision and instead backed a cross-party amendment in favour of a “full and timely decant” of Parliament.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/west...

Ali G

3,526 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Brussels?

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

190 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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To be fair, the whole lot needs modernising!

I was watching a bit of BBC Parliament the other day, and its mad to think that the future of this nation is still being determined in a sort of Edwardian Carry On filmset, complete with crazy costumes, whacked out museum piece buildings and weird expectations of what is suitable behaviour and what isn't.

Its the first time in ages where I actually had to take a step back and remind myself that its nearly 2020, not 1970!

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Would have been nice to have moved it outside of the centre of London/out of London altogether. And then for them to stay there.

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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As all they seem to be interested in is Brexit then feck them over the channel somewhere closer to the people they are negotiating with. Saves travel money and less travel is better for the environment.

If they want to be in London, put them in The Tower of London smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Ali G said:
Brussels?
Blackpool

The council are busy buying up just about anything to build hotels and conference facilities. the towns legendary status as having as many car parks as occupants is secured for eternity. It has an adequate supply of reasonably priced accommodation and eastern European prossies
Its relatively secure from terrorist attack via lorries mounting pavements as you can't get above 5mph.
It's ideal

JagLover

42,451 posts

236 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Murph7355 said:
Would have been nice to have moved it outside of the centre of London/out of London altogether. And then for them to stay there.
Birmingham is reasonable central.

Once they start interacting with normal people outside the M25 might have a bit less nonsense from them as well.

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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techiedave said:
Blackpool

The council are busy buying up just about anything to build hotels and conference facilities. the towns legendary status as having as many car parks as occupants is secured for eternity. It has an adequate supply of reasonably priced accommodation and eastern European prossies
Its relatively secure from terrorist attack via lorries mounting pavements as you can't get above 5mph.
It's ideal
hehe

rallycross

12,813 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Get the demolition team in; Guy Faulkes ltd.

RTB

8,273 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Seems expensive given that we've just built a 65000 tonne aircraft carrier that can house 1600 people for months whilst clipping through the worlds oceans at nearly 30knots, for the same money....

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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JagLover said:
Once they start interacting with normal people outside the M25 might have a bit less nonsense from them as well.
This.

Stick them somwhere where they have to do a daily commute involving the roads or the shocking public transport system that exists outside London - and we might actually get some decent non-London centric policies.

Mr E

21,634 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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6 years?
So ten minimum, and double the cost?

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

76 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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After last night's pantomime in the HoL I'm minded to let the bloody place fall down about their ears..

speedking31

3,557 posts

137 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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Can they get it on Grand Designs and get Channel 4 to foot some of the bill?

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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rallycross said:
Get the demolition team in; Guy Faulkes ltd.
Will they do a better job than Guy Fawkes?

zygalski

7,759 posts

146 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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We should instead spend the money to invest in more small village pubs & internet car forums.
These are, after all, the places where people who actually know how to deal with political & economic issues of the day always reside.

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Thursday 1st February 2018
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speedking31 said:
Can they get it on Grand Designs and get Channel 4 to foot some of the bill?
Or Nick Knowles and his SOS team...