Crumbling Westminster = £3bn +. What should we do ? Poll..
Poll: Crumbling Westminster = £3bn +. What should we do ? Poll..
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Discussion
RTB said:
Seems expensive given that we've just built a 65000 tonne aircraft carrier that can house 1600 people for months whilst clipping through the worlds oceans at nearly 30knots, for the same money....
Seeing as the f35 wont be ready any time soon, why not sail it up the thames and use that for a few years, the saved money can go towards another carrier....Personally, I beleive we have no real choice in the matter, the building is an astonishing grand edefice, one of the most iconic buildings on the planet , to allow it to decline, would be an act of vandalism.
The fact that in function its basically a dovecote for politician vermin is neither here nor there, although it has to be said it appears that the incumbents have not helped matters by kicking the can down the road when it comes to addressing the issue, another cock up ran away from by Blair, along with our farcical energy policy.
We are blessed in this country with some amazing buildings, grand cathedrals, awe inspiring stately homes etc, I'm all for preserving such, because of what they are, not about who uses them.
The fact that in function its basically a dovecote for politician vermin is neither here nor there, although it has to be said it appears that the incumbents have not helped matters by kicking the can down the road when it comes to addressing the issue, another cock up ran away from by Blair, along with our farcical energy policy.
We are blessed in this country with some amazing buildings, grand cathedrals, awe inspiring stately homes etc, I'm all for preserving such, because of what they are, not about who uses them.
Hosenbugler said:
Personally, I beleive we have no real choice in the matter, the building is an astonishing grand edefice, one of the most iconic buildings on the planet , to allow it to decline, would be an act of vandalism.
The fact that in function its basically a dovecote for politician vermin is neither here nor there, although it has to be said it appears that the incumbents have not helped matters by kicking the can down the road when it comes to addressing the issue, another cock up ran away from by Blair, along with our farcical energy policy.
We are blessed in this country with some amazing buildings, grand cathedrals, awe inspiring stately homes etc, I'm all for preserving such, because of what they are, not about who uses them.
Agree 100%The fact that in function its basically a dovecote for politician vermin is neither here nor there, although it has to be said it appears that the incumbents have not helped matters by kicking the can down the road when it comes to addressing the issue, another cock up ran away from by Blair, along with our farcical energy policy.
We are blessed in this country with some amazing buildings, grand cathedrals, awe inspiring stately homes etc, I'm all for preserving such, because of what they are, not about who uses them.
Foliage said:
New purpose built facilities, with hotels/apartments etc in the building then we can sack off the second home non-sense. Then old parliament can be restored at a slow and gentle pace to a high quality and low cost and be opened as a tourist attraction to recoup the 3bn...
Is the correct answer.ElectricSoup said:
Foliage said:
New purpose built facilities, with hotels/apartments etc in the building then we can sack off the second home non-sense. Then old parliament can be restored at a slow and gentle pace to a high quality and low cost and be opened as a tourist attraction to recoup the 3bn...
Is the correct answer.
The Surveyor said:
Hosenbugler said:
Personally, I beleive we have no real choice in the matter, the building is an astonishing grand edefice, one of the most iconic buildings on the planet , to allow it to decline, would be an act of vandalism.
The fact that in function its basically a dovecote for politician vermin is neither here nor there, although it has to be said it appears that the incumbents have not helped matters by kicking the can down the road when it comes to addressing the issue, another cock up ran away from by Blair, along with our farcical energy policy.
We are blessed in this country with some amazing buildings, grand cathedrals, awe inspiring stately homes etc, I'm all for preserving such, because of what they are, not about who uses them.
Agree 100%The fact that in function its basically a dovecote for politician vermin is neither here nor there, although it has to be said it appears that the incumbents have not helped matters by kicking the can down the road when it comes to addressing the issue, another cock up ran away from by Blair, along with our farcical energy policy.
We are blessed in this country with some amazing buildings, grand cathedrals, awe inspiring stately homes etc, I'm all for preserving such, because of what they are, not about who uses them.
But the (real) final cost is probably gonna be around £5-10 billion and take 5-10 years.
Even accounting for the dodgy 19th century building materials and London prices, it seems a ridiculous price and timespan. Very wasteful, lazy and unproductive. Not unlike the Heathrow 3rd runway chaos.
Same conversation (slightly different flavour) as for the Buckingham Palace renovation.
The costs quoted for additional fit out for high end apartments in London are c £2,500/sq foot - that's on top of the c£10,000/sq ft to buy. Given I'd expect the renovation will not, for example, involve ripping out encaustic floor tiles (eg http://www.dbrlimited.com/project/palace-westminst... )and replacing with B&Qs finest plain white, the £5k /sq foot looks about expected.
Hopefully this approach means we wont get a Hollyroodesque junkpile.
The costs quoted for additional fit out for high end apartments in London are c £2,500/sq foot - that's on top of the c£10,000/sq ft to buy. Given I'd expect the renovation will not, for example, involve ripping out encaustic floor tiles (eg http://www.dbrlimited.com/project/palace-westminst... )and replacing with B&Qs finest plain white, the £5k /sq foot looks about expected.
Hopefully this approach means we wont get a Hollyroodesque junkpile.
"The first images have been released of the proposed temporary home for MPs during restoration work in Parliament.
Architects plan to recreate the current chamber of the House of Commons, including the green benches on which MPs sit, at a new venue in Westminster.
The move to Richmond House, the former home of the Department of Health, will not happen until 2025 at the earliest.
The refurbishment of the current Palace of Westminster, due to cost £4bn, will not now be completed until the 2030s.
The repair work is likely to take between five and eight years longer than previously anticipated."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48199355
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