Common Purpose, who are they?

[Smiler.]

Just heard Common Purpose mentioned on Law In Action (R4).

If it wasn't for this thread, I'd have no idea who they are.

The programme isn't about CP, they were mentioned in passing.

[tangerine_sedge]

Esseesse said:

tangerine_sedge said:

Esseesse said:

I cannot answer the above questions. Maybe someone else can.

Sex education's roots are in Marxism however, I'm quite certain.

Some sex education was provided during the late Victorian time, primarily as part of the desire at the time by liberal Victorians to educate the working classes (also see the rise of Mary Stopes, public lending libraries and state funded schooling).

Widespread (though very basic, i.e. birds & bees) sex education was introduced post war primarily to counteract the increase in VD at that time (i.e. lots of people movement across Europe and men being away from home).

It only really started becoming more graphic (i.e. actually showing pictures of men and women) during the early 70's, and was probably due to the social changes at the time (i.e. changes in birth control and a more liberal approach to sex).

The thought that somehow educating our children is a marxist conspiracy seems a little bit tin-foil hattery to me...

Who said anything about a conspiracy? I said roots, i.e. where the idea comes from. See Georg Lukács/Hungarian Bolshevik.

I'm not aware of Marxism being specifically interested in sex education for children, although of course it is very interested in education for the common man. Which regardless of which end of the political spectrum we are on, we can all agree is a good thing.

[carinaman]

jogon said:

It looks like two UKIP MEPs are also graduates of Common Purpose - http://www.cpexposed.com/graduates - Suzanne Evans and Jane Collins. Certainly worth keeping an eye on. This organisation has no limits or boundaries it seems.

Shame I liked Suzanne.

I can't say I've heard of her. Googling her name bought up a review of her book on The Mirror newspaper website with several animations.

Smiler. said:

The programme isn't about CP, they were mentioned in passing.

Thank you for the heads up. I enjoyed the programme last week about Mini Cheddars and Victor Nealon.

[jogon]

carinaman said:

jogon said:

It looks like two UKIP MEPs are also graduates of Common Purpose - http://www.cpexposed.com/graduates - Suzanne Evans and Jane Collins. Certainly worth keeping an eye on. This organisation has no limits or boundaries it seems.

Shame I liked Suzanne.

I can't say I've heard of her. Googling her name bought up a review of her book on The Mirror newspaper website with several animations.

Smiler. said:

The programme isn't about CP, they were mentioned in passing.

Thank you for the heads up. I enjoyed the programme last week about Mini Cheddars and Victor Nealon.

She is a UKIP MEP along with Collins although Suzanne has appeared more in the news and QT of late.

It may come across a bit tin foil hat but when you look in to how far this organisations tentacles have grasped while been relatively unnoticed it does lead to some serious questions been asked.

This fifth column, wrong type of political correctness, we keep on hearing about has CP all over it.

edit: I wouldn't be surprised if one of these women or perhaps both jump ship with some explosive anti-UKIP news in the next 70 days such is my confidence in democracy currently in this country.

Roxanne Duncan the evil UKIP racist despite been a Conservative member for 20 years prior - would any sane individual really say what she said to a BBC camera crew with 20 years experience of keeping those views quiet? One does wonder how much Cameron might have paid her for this performance.

Edited by jogon on Wednesday 25th February 00:55

[carinaman]

Straw and Rifkind from 26 minutes in, Rifkind and CP from 28 minutes in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FlmCYqAiRE

[Esseesse]

jogon said:

carinaman said:

jogon said:

It looks like two UKIP MEPs are also graduates of Common Purpose - http://www.cpexposed.com/graduates - Suzanne Evans and Jane Collins. Certainly worth keeping an eye on. This organisation has no limits or boundaries it seems.

Shame I liked Suzanne.

I can't say I've heard of her. Googling her name bought up a review of her book on The Mirror newspaper website with several animations.

Smiler. said:

The programme isn't about CP, they were mentioned in passing.

Thank you for the heads up. I enjoyed the programme last week about Mini Cheddars and Victor Nealon.

She is a UKIP MEP along with Collins although Suzanne has appeared more in the news and QT of late.

It may come across a bit tin foil hat but when you look in to how far this organisations tentacles have grasped while been relatively unnoticed it does lead to some serious questions been asked.

This fifth column, wrong type of political correctness, we keep on hearing about has CP all over it.

edit: I wouldn't be surprised if one of these women or perhaps both jump ship with some explosive anti-UKIP news in the next 70 days such is my confidence in democracy currently in this country.

Roxanne Duncan the evil UKIP racist despite been a Conservative member for 20 years prior - would any sane individual really say what she said to a BBC camera crew with 20 years experience of keeping those views quiet? One does wonder how much Cameron might have paid her for this performance.

Edited by jogon on Wednesday 25th February 00:55

Wrong Suzanne Evans apparently... https://twitter.com/suzanneevans1/status/572868631...

[carinaman]

Thanks for the clarification.

[Gargamel]

Has anyone ever estimated the cost to the public from putting all these public sector people on these courses.
Has any MP ever asked a question about CP in Parliament?

[carinaman]

From 33 minutes in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2JgL0ua9xI

[V8 Fettler]

Is the "Common Purpose" course very different to many management/sales training courses where the primary objective is to control a negotiation/relationship/dialogue/confrontation?

[turbobloke]

V8 Fettler said:

Is the "Common Purpose" course very different to many management/sales training courses where the primary objective is to control a negotiation/relationship/dialogue/confrontation?

Apparently yes.

CommonPurpospeExposed said:

Common Purpose (CP) is a Charity, based in Great Britain, which creates ‘Future Leaders’ of society. CP selects individuals and ‘trains’ them to learn how society works, who 'pulls the levers of power' and how CP ‘graduates’ can use this knowledge to lead 'Outside Authority’.

Judging by results from some of the 'graduates' they need a tad more training than received.

[dandarez]

CommonPurpospeExposed said:

Common Purpose (CP) is a Charity, based in Great Britain, which creates ‘Future Leaders’ of society. CP selects individuals and ‘trains’ them to learn how society works, who 'pulls the levers of power' and how CP ‘graduates’ can use this knowledge to lead 'Outside Authority’.

That must account for the most worrying synopsis I have read in the last 60 years!

[dudleybloke]

Commie purpose.

Or treasonous bastids as I call them.

[Johnnytheboy]

How are they a charity?

[MTech535]

Tax purposes?

[dudleybloke]

Don't know if this has been posted before.

The roots of the marxist common purpose . http://youtu.be/Zkb6-v77_00

[tangerine_sedge]

dudleybloke said:

Don't know if this has been posted before.

The roots of the marxist common purpose . http://youtu.be/Zkb6-v77_00

Get the tin foil hats out!

[turbobloke]

tangerine_sedge said:

dudleybloke said:

Don't know if this has been posted before.

The roots of the marxist common purpose . http://youtu.be/Zkb6-v77_00

Get the tin foil hats out!

You have tinfoil hats at the ready? None here.

It's a time-consuming job keeping track of the failure-plus-promotion of CP "grads" as they move from screw-up to trainwreck. There's nowhere near enough time for stannous millinery.

Mid-Staffordshire NHS
Rotherham
Border Agency
HMRC
Met

[tangerine_sedge]

turbobloke said:

tangerine_sedge said:

dudleybloke said:

Don't know if this has been posted before.

The roots of the marxist common purpose . http://youtu.be/Zkb6-v77_00

Get the tin foil hats out!

You have tinfoil hats at the ready? None here.

It's a time-consuming job keeping track of the failure-plus-promotion of CP "grads" as they move from screw-up to trainwreck. There's nowhere near enough time for stannous millinery.

Mid-Staffordshire NHS
Rotherham
Border Agency
HMRC
Met

Of course, there were no screw-ups before CP? CP is just a different method for the old boys network, getting jobs for each other as has always happened.

It's rather simplistic to just blame all those problems on CP, but it makes a good conspiracy theory and is easy for the hard of thinking to follow.

[Countdown]

tangerine_sedge said:

Of course, there were no screw-ups before CP? CP is just a different method for the old boys network, getting jobs for each other as has always happened.

It's rather simplistic to just blame all those problems on CP, but it makes a good conspiracy theory and is easy for the hard of thinking to follow.

Somebody mention tin-foil hats?

http://www.stopcp.com/