Common Purpose, who are they?

[BrassMan]

Esseesse said:

BrassMan said:

Seeing Socialist conspiracies is a sign of a Fascist, as seeing Fascist conspiracies is a sign of a Socialist.

The roots of Fascism are in Socialism.

They are an antagonistic pair. The various International Congresses (can't remember the years) expressed worry that Fascism would draw Socialism's natural supporters away. Saying that one pre-dates the other is like asking about the chicken and the egg as they both pre-date our current vocabulary, for example most of the socialists I've met have shown interest in various peasant's revolts.

[Yazar]

TTwiggy said:

This forum never ceases to amaze me. If one were to suggest that man never landed on the moon, or that 9/11 was the work of the CIA, (justified) ridicule would ensue. Yet the idea that some socialist think tank is controlling all of the top jobs in public office is widely embraced.

Tell me about it. Next these loons will be suggesting that the leading memebers of our police forces, Judiciary and political parties (and pretty much anyone with any power/cash) are all part of some secret Paedo society!

[TTwiggy]

Yazar said:

Tell me about it. Next these loons will be suggesting that the leading memebers of our police forces, Judiciary and political parties (and pretty much anyone with any power/cash) are all part of some secret Paedo society!

Well, many of them are happy to believe that anyone who faces Mecca for prayer is.

[carinaman]

The Don of Croy said:

This makes an interesting, if over long, read;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233681/Le...

- it's mentioned in the Delingpole piece.

The Middleton woman and the Bell bloke are certainly well connected. But conspiracy? Hmmm

Could Emily Thornberry be Common Purpose?

Was she on QT a couple of years ago discussing Press regulation? Was she involved in press regulation?

Are the press being blamed for her Tweet? Are the press being blamed for her Tweet just as the bloke heading up IPSO seemed to have prejudged what was going on with the Brooks Newmark sting operation? The tweet by Emily Thornberry and Tweets by Brooks Newmark are the fault of the press?

Common Purpose could be another of those organisations that attracts or creates 'Do as I say, not as I do' double standards hypocrites?

They seem to expect others to live to standards that they think don't apply to themselves? They are the mediocre promoted beyond their talents and pay grades? They're the hidden face of the Politically Correct New Religion?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEqT270pKrs

They could be a harmless bunch of Duranies? I'll amuse myself doing some Alan Partridge like air bass guitar.

Edited by carinaman on Friday 21st November 15:09

[TTwiggy]

It's not as if anyone's ever been promoted beyond their competency in the private sector due to networked connections or holding a particular MBA, is it?

[s2art]

BrassMan said:

Esseesse said:

BrassMan said:

Seeing Socialist conspiracies is a sign of a Fascist, as seeing Fascist conspiracies is a sign of a Socialist.

The roots of Fascism are in Socialism.

They are an antagonistic pair. The various International Congresses (can't remember the years) expressed worry that Fascism would draw Socialism's natural supporters away. Saying that one pre-dates the other is like asking about the chicken and the egg as they both pre-date our current vocabulary, for example most of the socialists I've met have shown interest in various peasant's revolts.

Not really. Its well known that fascism evolved from syndicalism (a type of socialism) in Italy. Mussolini championed it, Hitler took in an a very dark direction by adding racism to the mix.

[Esseesse]

s2art said:

BrassMan said:

Esseesse said:

BrassMan said:

Seeing Socialist conspiracies is a sign of a Fascist, as seeing Fascist conspiracies is a sign of a Socialist.

The roots of Fascism are in Socialism.

They are an antagonistic pair. The various International Congresses (can't remember the years) expressed worry that Fascism would draw Socialism's natural supporters away. Saying that one pre-dates the other is like asking about the chicken and the egg as they both pre-date our current vocabulary, for example most of the socialists I've met have shown interest in various peasant's revolts.

Not really. Its well known that fascism evolved from syndicalism (a type of socialism) in Italy. Mussolini championed it, Hitler took in an a very dark direction by adding racism to the mix.

Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism

[carinaman]

TTwiggy said:

It's not as if anyone's ever been promoted beyond their competency in the private sector due to networked connections or holding a particular MBA, is it?

Brooks Newmark for example? It's unfortunate his son did an MBA at the same institution.

But the Common Purpose crowd are involved in spending public money and creating the laws that govern us. Are they creating laws for the good of society or for the good of themselves?

Look at Chris Grayling's Law to Protect Have a Go Heroes. Is such a law needed? Instead of Grayling creating a new law is some education of existing legislation needed? And I thought New Labour were addicted to creating legislation.

Legislation is the answer to everything? Nevermind the police that are supposed to implement new laws can't even get their crime stats correct and the prisons are full?

I reckon Emily Thornberry is Common Purpose. I think her Tweet has made her look as questionable as Judge Constance Briscoe's handwriting expert 'witness'.

[Digga]

BrassMan said:

TTwiggy said:

This forum never ceases to amaze me. If one were to suggest that man never landed on the moon, or that 9/11 was the work of the CIA, (justified) ridicule would ensue. Yet the idea that some socialist think tank is controlling all of the top jobs in public office is widely embraced.

Seeing Socialist conspiracies is a sign of a Fascist, as seeing Fascist conspiracies is a sign of a Socialist.

Oooh, ooh, do me next.

[jogon]

Many think it was born from this idea and the 11 point plan.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_cons...

The creation of racism offenses
Continual change to create confusion
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
Huge immigration to destroy identity
The promotion of excessive drinking
Emptying of churches
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
Dependency on the state or state benefits
Control and dumbing down of media
Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Cultural Marxism.

[TTwiggy]

jogon said:

Many think it was born from this idea and the 11 point plan.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_cons...

The creation of racism offenses
Continual change to create confusion
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
Huge immigration to destroy identity
The promotion of excessive drinking
Emptying of churches
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
Dependency on the state or state benefits
Control and dumbing down of media
Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Cultural Marxism.

It should be acknowledged that this is a conspiracy theory. See my point about the moon landings/9-11.

[anonymous-user]

jogon said:

Many think it was born from this idea and the 11 point plan.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_cons...

The creation of racism offenses
Continual change to create confusion
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
Huge immigration to destroy identity
The promotion of excessive drinking
Emptying of churches
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
Dependency on the state or state benefits
Control and dumbing down of media
Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Cultural Marxism.

Top tinfoil points!

"Teaching of homosexuality to children"? How are things back there in the nineteenth century?

[Digga]

TTwiggy said:

jogon said:

Many think it was born from this idea and the 11 point plan.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_cons...

The creation of racism offenses
Continual change to create confusion
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
Huge immigration to destroy identity
The promotion of excessive drinking
Emptying of churches
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
Dependency on the state or state benefits
Control and dumbing down of media
Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Cultural Marxism.

It should be acknowledged that this is a conspiracy theory. See my point about the moon landings/9-11.

That's as maybe, but most of it looks pretty much on target, except for the drinking. Seems the well-meaning nannies didn't have the stomach for that and instead tried to destroy the national treasure that is our network of boozers.

Although one might argue they've merely handed the business over to the political classes partners in crime - big business.

[Esseesse]

carinaman said:

I reckon Emily Thornberry is Common Purpose. I think her Tweet has made her look as questionable as Judge Constance Briscoe's handwriting expert 'witness'.

Can't see anything about Common Purpose, but this does suggest that she is a Fabian. http://www.fabians.org.uk/labours-britain-ending-w...

[anonymous-user]

I just wish that I hadn't run out of magic beans to sell. I'd make a packet round here.

[Digga]

Breadvan72 said:

I just wish that I hadn't run out of magic beans to sell. I'd make a packet round here.

Okay Mr nothing-to-see-here. If there isn't an invisible hand guiding the PS, how come suddenly, at certain points in time, phrases gain such ubiquity? Where is the groupthink coming from?

[turbobloke]

Digga said:

TTwiggy said:

jogon said:

Many think it was born from this idea and the 11 point plan.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_cons...

The creation of racism offenses
Continual change to create confusion
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
Huge immigration to destroy identity
The promotion of excessive drinking
Emptying of churches
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
Dependency on the state or state benefits
Control and dumbing down of media
Encouraging the breakdown of the family


Cultural Marxism.

It should be acknowledged that this is a conspiracy theory. See my point about the moon landings/9-11.

That's as maybe, but most of it looks pretty much on target...

Yes it does look that way.

Moon, 9-11, didn't lizards appear at one point - but we've not had holocaust denial linked in yet, but there's time.

You'd think folk would realise how weak an argument that bombing approach is, and how it shows them up not the people they're trying to put down.

[s2art]

TTwiggy said:

jogon said:

Many think it was born from this idea and the 11 point plan.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_cons...

The creation of racism offenses
Continual change to create confusion
The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
Huge immigration to destroy identity
The promotion of excessive drinking
Emptying of churches
An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
Dependency on the state or state benefits
Control and dumbing down of media
Encouraging the breakdown of the family

Cultural Marxism.

It should be acknowledged that this is a conspiracy theory. See my point about the moon landings/9-11.

I suggest you do a bit of research on Gramsci and cultural hegemony. Lots out there, call it a political movement or a conspiracy, but it exists.

[anonymous-user]

Digga said:

Okay Mr nothing-to-see-here. If there isn't an invisible hand guiding the PS, how come suddenly, at certain points in time, phrases gain such ubiquity? Where is the groupthink coming from?

Management gobbledegook is just like any other trend. Buzzwords and blether spread in all fields.


As for sex education for children, of course I support it, and suggest that opposition to it is frankly weird. Would you rather children just stumble their way into early pregnancies and diseases? Is telling a little girl about menstruation so she doesn't freak out when it first happens a bad thing? Also, if there is an inference in the loony list above that people can be trained to be homosexual, that's more tinfoil woo.

EDIT: the last bit was responding to a post by Essessee, which he has since deleted, opposing sex education for children.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 21st November 16:06

[Esseesse]

Breadvan72 said:

Mnanagement gobbledegook is just like any other trend. Buzzwords and blether spread in all fields.

As for sex education for children, of course I support it, and suggest that opposition to it is frankly weird. Would you rather children just stumble their way into early pregnancies and diseases? Is telling a little girl about menstruation so she doesn't freak out when it first happens a bad thing? Also, if there is an inference in the loony list above that people can be trained to be homosexual, that's more tinfoil woo.

Sorry I removed my post because I decided it too off topic. Your 'stumbling' suggestions are undesirable, but sex education has lead to higher rate of teenage pregnancies. These topics should be tackled by parents, they're not a job for the state.

Edited by Esseesse on Friday 21st November 16:13