Common Purpose, who are they?

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turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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elster said:
They sure do media training. At a hefty price too. A lot of top Public Sector bods are given a training budget and CP get a good chunk of that. Leadership, media & policy (such as equalities, etc)
This explains why Ed Miliband is so media friendly.

He either needs to go on a course...or has attended the wrong one smile

carinaman

21,318 posts

173 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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So if people that may have been CP trained appear to be laying on with a trowel in video presentations, is it because they think they need to dumb it down for the audience, that they think they're cleverer than the audience because after all they are the chosen ones, or is it due to the brainwashing/NLP techniques?

Did CP train the Blair Babes with their condescending and simpering tones?

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I can't actually believe a thread exists on PH where I find myself agreeing with BV and Countdown! Now for the rest of you just think about that for a minute and then revisit the absurdity of what the bks is being discussed on this thread. What I find even more baffling is that you all seem to find it's "indoctrination " stuff more interesting/important than it being a waste of public money! It's a mediocre organisation providing mediocre training to mediocre public service managers. And it creams public money for this. THAT is a good reason to decry this mob.

JezzaV8

19 posts

122 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I'm sorry but I can really believe how this could work so effectively in the public sector - their own version of the freemasons. How else could someone, such as suggested, like Lin Homer continue to jump from one role to the other seemingly on an upward career path....?
I wonder who just how much Rotherham Council wasted on CP training... furious for sure it looks like the first thing to go out of the window is any vestiges shame someone may once have had....

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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DJRC said:
I can't actually believe a thread exists on PH where I find myself agreeing with BV and Countdown! Now for the rest of you just think about that for a minute and then revisit the absurdity of what the bks is being discussed on this thread. What I find even more baffling is that you all seem to find it's "indoctrination " stuff more interesting/important than it being a waste of public money! It's a mediocre organisation providing mediocre training to mediocre public service managers. And it creams public money for this. THAT is a good reason to decry this mob.
That sums it up for me, but we are supposed to believe that this is all part of a plan formulated by a bunch of academics to destroy the western world by teaching the hapless kiddies about THE GAYS.

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Ah yes social liberalism.

Now quite why anything thinks social policy is ever more important than money I will never understand, but Im a small c Tory so I wouldn't.
There is only one true freedom in the world and that is financial. Everything else to do with everybody else is irrelevant.

A decent Tory party should live and breathe that mantra and it would walk every election from here to eternity.

carinaman

21,318 posts

173 months

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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carinaman said:
good find, many more examples to come, no doubt

carinaman

21,318 posts

173 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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NicD said:
carinaman said:
good find, many more examples to come, no doubt
But it seems she did learn her lessons:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-educat...

Labor are saying she's gone if they get in:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/education-deputy-se...

Fair dinkum, Dr Sonia Sharp giving us Poms a bad name down under. Perhaps her Passport should be stamped with 'Space Lizard'?

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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carinaman said:
Labor are saying she's gone if they get in:
now that is irony!!

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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CP and their influence on the Leveson inquiry

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233681/Le...


NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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rover 623gsi said:
CP and their influence on the Leveson inquiry

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233681/Le...
I read that earlier but have always objected to that enquiry as unnecessary and in fact dangerous. Existing law is fine for the phone tapping and we don't need special pleading from publicity hungry luvvies.

carinaman

21,318 posts

173 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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NicD said:
carinaman said:
Labor are saying she's gone if they get in:
now that is irony!!
Labor got in and didn't sack her:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/victoria...


So Ched Evans can't go abroad as he's under licence, but she could slink away and get that job in Australia?

And a Labor politician that said he'd deal with her questionable appointment has moved her sideways, but at least she's now got less responsibility for children.

Countdown

39,955 posts

197 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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carinaman said:
So Ched Evans can't go abroad as he's under licence, but she could slink away and get that job in Australia?

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On what grounds could she have been stopped?

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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carinaman said:
Labor got in and didn't sack her:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/victoria...


So Ched Evans can't go abroad as he's under licence, but she could slink away and get that job in Australia?

And a Labor politician that said he'd deal with her questionable appointment has moved her sideways, but at least she's now got less responsibility for children.
best to avoid a future law case and payout as per clueless shoesmith.

carinaman

21,318 posts

173 months

Sunday 11th January 2015
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Countdown said:
On what grounds could she have been stopped?
Shouldn't she have faced some disciplinary or professional hearing in the UK that would have at least raised a flag to future potential employers?

On Any Questions on Radio 4 they discussed whether Newspapers should carry Charlie Hebdo cartoons in support. A woman said that they owed their staff a moral duty in case reprinting cartoons provoked an attack.

Dr Sharp was in a group of people in Rotherham that failed in their moral duty to protect hundreds of children in South Yorks. Did those in Australia that gave her the job fail in their moral duty to give her that job with similar responsibility with regard to safeguarding children?

I am not sure failing to stop the rape of children can be excused with a bit of hand wringing and 'learning lessons'.

Edited by carinaman on Sunday 11th January 11:06

Esseesse

Original Poster:

8,969 posts

209 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Apparently Julia Middleton, the Common Purpose founder is an ex-editor of Marxism Today.

True?

carinaman

21,318 posts

173 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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I don't know.

I looked at a few reviews of her book on Amazon and a reviewer compared it to a Saul Alinsky book and I saw ten bullet points to activisim or achieving your objectives from the Alinsky book. The 10th was to disrupt the support structure of opponents. It sounds like vanilla workplace bullying to me, and may fit with how Risky Business in Rotherham was raided, disrupted and absorbed into a bigger entity where it could be controlled and hidden.

Are the Common Purpose tentacles wrapped around the ConDem coalition? I don't think their influence is restricted to the left, or what passes for the left in 2015.


Chris Grayling says he needs to restrict access to Judicial Reviews to stop the left and charities using them to conspire against the government? I am not sure how that compares to the influence of Common Purpose within the public sector and Tory public sector reforms?

Edited by carinaman on Friday 13th February 14:45

Digga

40,339 posts

284 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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carinaman said:
Are the Common Purpose tentacles wrapped around the ConDem coalition? I don't think their influence is restricted to the left, or what passes for the left in 2015.
I don't think that scratches the surface of it.

Yes, they have followers in all three of the (previous) main parties, but also have influence throughout the public sector and police - especially W. Mids it would seem.


ETA frankly, anyone reading the published facts in the last two articles and not finding any dots to join up is rather obtuse.

Edited by Digga on Friday 13th February 14:59

jogon

2,971 posts

159 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Digga said:
don't think that scratches the surface of it.

Yes, they have followers in all three of the (previous) main parties, but also have influence throughout the public sector and police - especially W. Mids it would seem.
You can add ACPO to the list of infiltrated it seems.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/13/reveale...