MP resigns over white van/English flag tweet
Discussion
TKF said:
Her tweet was judgemental and prejudiced. And, as it turns out, entirely correct.
Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
I very much doubt he listens to erasure and wears a onesie to bed. Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
I know people who look like him. Tattoos and skinheads and the like. Difference is, I know them not to be flying flags to piss the "ethnics" off. I probably wouldn't know them if they did.
We all judge on fist impressions. I'm sure you all did initially.
TKF said:
Her tweet was judgemental and prejudiced. And, as it turns out, entirely correct.
Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
He said he flies the flag despite the snobbery and what he thought was the dislike of it by minorities and wants illegal immigrants sent back. But yeah, when you add your own little twists and leave bits out , it does sound how you want to portray it, I would agree.Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
Mr_B said:
TKF said:
Her tweet was judgemental and prejudiced. And, as it turns out, entirely correct.
Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
He said he flies the flag despite the snobbery and what he thought was the dislike of it by minorities and wants illegal immigrants sent back. But yeah, when you add your own little twists and leave bits out , it does sound how you want to portray it, I would agree.Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
We get it. You are a carbon copy of our hero. Sorry if you've heard some hurtful truths over the weekend.
TKF said:
Her tweet was judgemental and prejudiced. And, as it turns out, entirely correct.
Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
Ahhh butOur working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
She "claims" to represent this working class hero
I am allowed to laugh at this knuckle dragger and so are you
She isn't
McWigglebum4th said:
Ahhh but
She "claims" to represent this working class hero
I am allowed to laugh at this knuckle dragger and so are you
She isn't
I'd go with this. I suppose someone who represents the people, maybe shouldn't mock the people. She "claims" to represent this working class hero
I am allowed to laugh at this knuckle dragger and so are you
She isn't
She didn't half hit the nail on the head though. He suits the make up of that gaff to a tee!
He should have smarten himself up a bit. Maybe at least look like she might have been off the mark
DeanR32 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Ahhh but
She "claims" to represent this working class hero
I am allowed to laugh at this knuckle dragger and so are you
She isn't
I'd go with this. I suppose someone who represents the people, maybe shouldn't mock the people. She "claims" to represent this working class hero
I am allowed to laugh at this knuckle dragger and so are you
She isn't
She didn't half hit the nail on the head though. He suits the make up of that gaff to a tee!
He should have smarten himself up a bit. Maybe at least look like she might have been off the mark
It is distasteful and unwise for a politician to be so summarily judgemental. That she is also a barrister is frankly very worrying, given the bias and prejudice she appears to carry.
That, in retrospect, some of the guy's quoted (media can and do spin and embellish) comments might validate certain of those prejudices is neither here nor there.
Never judge a book by its cover.
Johnnytheboy said:
There was an article in the Telegraph at the weekend that hit the nail on the head. It said the Labour Party used to be a coalition of the readership of the Guardian and the Mirror.
Now it is just the readership of the Guardian.
As per the above and comments following Rochester & Strood, the Labour Party in reality now represents the upper echelons of the public sector, and even then not too well. The idea that London-centric mansion dwelling millionaires can be anything other than completely clueless as 'representatives' of working men and women in the streets of Doncaster or Grimsby has always been obvious, the difference now is that it's obvious to many more people. Labour keeps low paid workers and benefits recipients in a state of dependency, that's their means of survival. It may be breaking down.Now it is just the readership of the Guardian.
Not sure it is wise to admit this on PH, but I used to live less than 100 yards from our "hero".
Can't say I know the fellow, but he does seem to fit the assumptions she was making rather well, Ford Escorts, a staff etc etc. My take on it, fwiw, is that she knew as well as anybody that Labour were going to come a distant 3rd with a UKIP victory. So in posting that picture she was saying "look, this constituence is full of scumbags, no wonder they vote UKIP!"
Truth is there are "those" around here (like anywhere), unfortunately they don't all leave flags out after the World Cup to show their location.
Can't say I know the fellow, but he does seem to fit the assumptions she was making rather well, Ford Escorts, a staff etc etc. My take on it, fwiw, is that she knew as well as anybody that Labour were going to come a distant 3rd with a UKIP victory. So in posting that picture she was saying "look, this constituence is full of scumbags, no wonder they vote UKIP!"
Truth is there are "those" around here (like anywhere), unfortunately they don't all leave flags out after the World Cup to show their location.
Art0ir said:
And as I understand it, brawling outside of the sport can see you banned from competition?
Yeah the sanctioning bodies are pretty keen to present a clean image. It's certainly looked down upon and you'd quickly run out of instructors or sparring partners if you're a tosser.Fortunately, the first thing everyone learns, even the big scary looking fellows, is humility, as you get battered by absolutely everyone and don't understand what just happened
. That tends to put the tossers off.TKF said:
Mr_B said:
TKF said:
Her tweet was judgemental and prejudiced. And, as it turns out, entirely correct.
Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
He said he flies the flag despite the snobbery and what he thought was the dislike of it by minorities and wants illegal immigrants sent back. But yeah, when you add your own little twists and leave bits out , it does sound how you want to portray it, I would agree.Our working class hero has the tattoo of a knuckle duster on his forearm, flies the flags to annoy ethnic minorities and wants immigrants sent home.
We get it. You are a carbon copy of our hero. Sorry if you've heard some hurtful truths over the weekend.
I find people like you very odd. You type away preaching and fighting about how moralistic you and patting yourself on the back for fighting what you see as racism, yet you do so with the same bigotry of just looking at someone and then try and back it up with twisting what he has said and done. I'm not so sure you are any different to the people you pretend to fight against.
CrutyRammers said:
Art0ir said:
And as I understand it, brawling outside of the sport can see you banned from competition?
Yeah the sanctioning bodies are pretty keen to present a clean image. It's certainly looked down upon and you'd quickly run out of instructors or sparring partners if you're a tosser.Fortunately, the first thing everyone learns, even the big scary looking fellows, is humility, as you get battered by absolutely everyone and don't understand what just happened
. That tends to put the tossers off.IMHO Judging someone because they happen to fight in the sporting context is very wrong.
Digga said:
Never judge a book by its cover.
The cover was entirely correct. Turn over the page and we see a foreword by Nick Griffin.The only lesson to learn is don't shout it in public when you're an MP.
Her observation was crass but justified. The only mistake she made was putting them on Twitter rather than just showing them to her Islington set to sneer at.
Likewise the Gillian Duffy episode. The only thing Brown did wrong was get caught.
I'm not a Labour voter but I can't disagree with what either of them said. Duffy and White Van Dan are finalists in Britain's Got Bigots.
Mr_B said:
'if people show up uninvited, send them back' is what he said and you are referring too. Yet you claim that means he wants ethnic minorities sent home. How did you come to that conclusion from that quote ?
Not very good at reading are you?He flies the flags and knows (how, I wonder?) it annoys ethnic minorities.
Full stop.
New sentence.
He wants uninvited immigrants to be sent home.
I suspect his (and perhaps your) definition of "uninvited" might be different to mine. If they are here and working (as the vast, vast majority are) then that says to me they are ipso facto invited.
TKF said:
Digga said:
Never judge a book by its cover.
The cover was entirely correct. Turn over the page and we see a foreword by Nick Griffin.Furthermore, you also think it conduct befitting a representative of our legal system to do likewise?
If there was one decent bit of the whole muliticulturalism experiment it was that at least we should view people different to ourselves as being human. If you genuinely feel that anyone who is white, heavily built, shaven-headed, drives a white van and has St George's flags on his house/car/Facebook pages etc. etc. is racist scum then you're disconnected from reality and reason.
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