MP resigns over white van/English flag tweet

MP resigns over white van/English flag tweet

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e21Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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hairyben said:
eccles said:
NicD said:
eccles said:
A quite valid comparison in my eyes.
in what sense valid?

The tweet was deemed inappropriate for an MP, what has that to do with free speech?
And a cartoon showing some religious bloke is deemed inappropriate by people who follow him. In just about every walk of life we are restricted by what we can say, yet some get hot and bothered about it a lot more than others.
The other comparison made on the now show and on the last leg was the number of world leaders in Paris for the march to show support for freedom of speech that had journalists and bloggers locked up.
MP's and satirical publications have quite fundamentally different objectives; because a drill-seargent shouts abuse at and insults his charges does that make it okay for a child carer to act the same?
Freedom of speech doesn't absolve us of responsibility. It's the same when folk say things as "being honest", where mutual respect, or even plain old good manners, would more usually tell you to keep comments to yourself. That said, it's hard to have freedom of speech without affording it to everyone, no matter what their view.

ChemicalChaos

10,393 posts

160 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

243 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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ChemicalChaos said:
In a forum in 2006? confused I rather suspect most of us would fall down if held to things we said on a forum almost a decade ago.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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People underestimate the power these kind of things are going to have over their lives in 10-20 years.

Someone will make a fortune some day designing software the trawls the social media and forum accounts of people for prospective employers...

carinaman

21,298 posts

172 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3040796/La...

The establishment are working for themselves.

Vote them out.

LucreLout

908 posts

118 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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speedy_thrills said:
In a forum in 2006? confused I rather suspect most of us would fall down if held to things we said on a forum almost a decade ago.
For a bunch of small minded, nasty, trumped up little racists, they sure spend a lot of energy telling us the other guys are the nasty party.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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carinaman said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3040796/La...

The establishment are working for themselves.

Vote them out.
That is more of a non-story than a Michael Bay movie.

She bought an ex-ha house on the open market.

I don't tend to defend her lot, but that's absurd.

carinaman

21,298 posts

172 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Justayellowbadge said:
I don't tend to defend her lot, but that's absurd.
Thanks. I just went with the headline and it being on Guido Fawkes. I'll accept slapped wrists for that one.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Justayellowbadge said:
carinaman said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3040796/La...

The establishment are working for themselves.

Vote them out.
That is more of a non-story than a Michael Bay movie.

She bought an ex-ha house on the open market.

I don't tend to defend her lot, but that's absurd.
I don't think it is what she has done that is an issue, it's that she has in the past complained of council housing stock falling into the hands of private landlords and that costing the taxpayer more. She has also complained about housing benefit being cut failing to mention her vested interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNn1L5H7m68

Right at the end of this clip she admits that labour are social engineering.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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speedy_thrills said:
In a forum in 2006? confused I rather suspect most of us would fall down if held to things we said on a forum almost a decade ago.
Don't know about you - but 10 years ago I wasn't publicly (or privately) advocating the willful vandalisation of other peoples property just because they were of a 'different nationality' and displayed visible signs of that nationality.

It's actually quite ironic that somebody from Wales would criticise English people for displaying signs of their nationality. The English are IMO far more reserved about nationalistic flag waving and showing outward signs of that nationality on their cars (car stickers, number plate flags etc) than the other home nations.

Perhaps he really has changed his view though - eh! scratchchin

Conscript

1,378 posts

121 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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I remember seeing this all over the news a few months back, as I live in Wainscott, part of the Rochester and Strood constituency.

Anyway, I had been wondering whereabouts in Strood this guy lives, as it looked vaguely familiar. I did a bit of digging and it turns out he lived just around the corner from the house where my girlfriend lived when we first met.