London balcony collapse deaths

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scenario8

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6,559 posts

179 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-301480...

Terribly sad. I've never trusted balconies - despite the clear evidence of their integrity.

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Removal men moving a sofa apparently.
Who'd have thought you could get killed being a removal man.
Just goes to show.
RIP

http://www.lbc.co.uk/chelsea-balcony-collapse-one-...

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Looks like the railing fell off, not the balcony collapsing.

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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TheEnd said:
Looks like the railing fell off, not the balcony collapsing.
That's exactly what I've just heard.

scenario8

Original Poster:

6,559 posts

179 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The story has been updated a couple of times on the BBC News site - and I wouldn't expect that site to be the swiftest to get to the bottom of it. They now state the furniture was being hauled onto an upper storey by ropes (presumably attached to a balcony and/or its railings). Somehow this collapsed with objects falling onto persons below injuring at least eight in the process.

Genuine, respectful and non-facetious question; does one purchasing suitable furniture in this rather exclusive part of the world expect half a dozen or so delivery men? That's a step up from Argos or DFS. I appreciate not all of the injured eight may have been delivery persons but to have hurt at least that many is remarkable.

A terrible day for some.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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terrible news and a severe case of trusting very old metalwork to do a lot more than it really could deal with.




Its obviously very wrong that I noted the rather nice jag in that photo isnt it?

paulrockliffe

15,684 posts

227 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I've seen pictures of removals in London, a lot seem to be done by telehandler and in through a window rather than the stairs, so this method of delivery isn't unusual I don't think. I'd be surprised if standard practice was to rely on anything un risk-assessed to support the weight though.

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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hman said:
terrible news and a severe case of trusting very old metalwork to do a lot more than it really could deal with.




Its obviously very wrong that I noted the rather nice jag in that photo isnt it?
So it's not just me who looked at the picture and thought, a bit over the top sending Inspector Morse to establish the cause of death...

I'm also thinking it's rather unlucky to die falling from around 10-12 feet.

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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aka_kerrly said:
hman said:
terrible news and a severe case of trusting very old metalwork to do a lot more than it really could deal with.




Its obviously very wrong that I noted the rather nice jag in that photo isnt it?
So it's not just me who looked at the picture and thought, a bit over the top sending Inspector Morse to establish the cause of death...

I'm also thinking it's rather unlucky to die falling from around 10-12 feet.
I suspect it was not the fall, but when fell on top of the victims ( several tonnes of stone) that was the problem.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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onyx39 said:
aka_kerrly said:
hman said:
terrible news and a severe case of trusting very old metalwork to do a lot more than it really could deal with.




Its obviously very wrong that I noted the rather nice jag in that photo isnt it?
So it's not just me who looked at the picture and thought, a bit over the top sending Inspector Morse to establish the cause of death...

I'm also thinking it's rather unlucky to die falling from around 10-12 feet.
I suspect it was not the fall, but when fell on top of the victims ( several tonnes of stone) that was the problem.
Railing snapped off, no masonry fell , just a sofa and a wrought iron fence from 10m above them - inspector morse LOL

FourWheelDrift

88,501 posts

284 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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aka_kerrly said:
So it's not just me who looked at the picture and thought, a bit over the top sending Inspector Morse to establish the cause of death...

I'm also thinking it's rather unlucky to die falling from around 10-12 feet.
Closer to 20ft from the first floor, there's a lower ground floor level.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Maybe the railing was unbolted, the sofa was being lifted and then dropped.

ALawson

7,815 posts

251 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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aka_kerrly said:
So it's not just me who looked at the picture and thought, a bit over the top sending Inspector Morse to establish the cause of death...

I'm also thinking it's rather unlucky to die falling from around 10-12 feet.
I expect plod will be accompanying the HSE as it will be classed as a death at work and as such potentially a "crime scene".


BooHoo

165 posts

116 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The Daily Mail are now reporting that at least one man fell onto the spiked railings at street level, horrible way to go.

Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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aka_kerrly said:
hman said:
terrible news and a severe case of trusting very old metalwork to do a lot more than it really could deal with.




Its obviously very wrong that I noted the rather nice jag in that photo isnt it?
So it's not just me who looked at the picture and thought, a bit over the top sending Inspector Morse to establish the cause of death...

I'm also thinking it's rather unlucky to die falling from around 10-12 feet.
Seems to be a basement they may have fallen into, or on the street level railings unless I misunderstand the pictures.
Couldn't help but notice the old Jag though...

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The BBC 6pm news went all Daily Mail on this story with it's reporter on the scene opening being " this is one of London's most exclusive postcodes with 2 bed apartments selling for £8m ". Nice.

GTRmad

248 posts

171 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
Seems that these were polish builders,and not professional removal men,who were killed.

croyde

22,876 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Poor buggers.

When I think of the stupid things we did as furniture deliverymen back in the 80s.

Two of us, two ladders and a wardrobe come to mind frown

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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GTRmad said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
Seems that these were polish builders,and not professional removal men,who were killed.
Telling paragraph?

...Both men, who are understood to have been working at the £25 million house for a number of months, where employed by a UK-based property and construction firm which employs only Polish workers and had been warned three times about safety standards...

Different topic but noted errors throughout Telegraph article, inc para above.
Standards today are simply bloody appalling!

In same Telegraph story:
...street covered in blood, impaled by pieces of petal. An older men was...

Chrise, soon we won't be able to communicate!




Vaud

50,448 posts

155 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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dandarez said:
Chrise, soon we won't be able to communicate!
Intentionally ironic?