Why the UKIP will never work....

[FredClogs]

XJ Flyer said:

vonuber said:

sidicks said:

What have Romania and Poland got to do with British values?

My Grandad is polish and came here as a refugee after the war. He has directly contributed to how this country has evolved a s a society, as has hundreds of thousands of other poles.
So fk off.

Assuming that we aren't a stateless group then the indigenous community reserves the right to determine its own policy in its own country which includes deciding where to draw the line in how much immigration we take in.Assuming the immigrant communities don't want to respect that then maybe they are the ones who should fk off just as the Poles and the Ukrainians would say if ethnic Russians tried to determine Polish and Ukrainian national policy.

So you'd agree to the proposition of restricting the vote to indigenous peoples only?

[King Cnut]

sidicks said:

Because I agreee that you were asking a dumb question...

He didn't say it was a dumb question, that might have been acceptable, he implied I was a see you next Tuesday for merely expressing a view he disagreed with. Is that honestly the first insult of choice you'd use to someone you've never met before - someone who wasn't even talking to you? Or do you reckon it's ok to tell anyone who doesn't support UKIP that they're a ?

[XJ Flyer]

FredClogs said:

There was nothing vague in my question.

I'll ask it again - what is more important to you when recruiting resource to come and work in the UK - is it the specific utility of their skill set or their ability to integrate and accept "British values"?

Why would/should any different ethnic group need to 'integrate' in a so called 'multi cultural' society.'Multi' means more than one type of culture and national identity.In which case I've got no issues whatsoever with any different ethnic group wanting to keep its own identity in fact I'd prefer it.The problem I've got is if/when those groups are allowed in in sufficient numbers to be able to form local majorities and/or try to influence 'our' national interest and policy by trying to impose 'their' national interest and policy on us.

[fido]

FredClogs said:

XJ Flyer said:

Assuming that we aren't a stateless group then the indigenous community reserves the right to determine its own policy in its own country which includes deciding where to draw the line in how much immigration we take in.Assuming the immigrant communities don't want to respect that then maybe they are the ones who should fk off just as the Poles and the Ukrainians would say if ethnic Russians tried to determine Polish and Ukrainian national policy.

So you'd agree to the proposition of restricting the vote to indigenous peoples only?

XJ - i'll be genuinely impressed if you get out this one. Lolz.

[Foppo]

Who are these indigenous people do they all live in caves ready to attack these hordes of foreigners.

This planet has moved on we better learn to live with each other or follow these policies of hatred.It aint working.>

[sidicks]

Foppo said:

Who are these indigenous people do they all live in caves ready to attack these hordes of foreigners.

This planet has moved on we better learn to live with each other or follow these policies of hatred.It aint working.>

What 'policies of hatred'???

[XJ Flyer]

FredClogs said:

XJ Flyer said:

vonuber said:

sidicks said:

What have Romania and Poland got to do with British values?

My Grandad is polish and came here as a refugee after the war. He has directly contributed to how this country has evolved a s a society, as has hundreds of thousands of other poles.
So fk off.

Assuming that we aren't a stateless group then the indigenous community reserves the right to determine its own policy in its own country which includes deciding where to draw the line in how much immigration we take in.Assuming the immigrant communities don't want to respect that then maybe they are the ones who should fk off just as the Poles and the Ukrainians would say if ethnic Russians tried to determine Polish and Ukrainian national policy.

So you'd agree to the proposition of restricting the vote to indigenous peoples only?

Wrong question.The question is how do ethnic immigrant minorities get the right to determine our national immigration policy.


However assuming that we're not going to restrict immigration levels to the point where it is impossible for the immigrant communities to form electoral majorities then the question is obviously irrelevant.Assuming that is the case then it seems obvious where this is all heading.IE we become an ethnic minority in our own country governed by foreign immigrant groups in the interests of those foreign ethnic groups not ours.In which case as I've said we're eventually heading for an even worse situation than Tito's Yugoslavia.IE national suicide on the basis of handing the country over to majority immigrant interests in which we become the ethnic minority governed by them.

[XJ Flyer]

Foppo said:

This planet has moved on we better learn to live with each other.It aint working.>

That's called socialism and socialist propaganda and as any nationalist knows socialism doesn't recognise the idea of the nation state or national boundaries.The fact is it is the idea of socialist ethnic integration that ain't working and never would.Which is why we have those nation states and national boundaries.

[CamMoreRon]

XJ Flyer said:

Foppo said:

This planet has moved on we better learn to live with each other.It aint working.>

That's called socialism and socialist propaganda..

I think you'll find it's just called "Not being a nationalistic xenophobe".

[FredClogs]

XJ Flyer said:

FredClogs said:

XJ Flyer said:

vonuber said:

sidicks said:

What have Romania and Poland got to do with British values?

My Grandad is polish and came here as a refugee after the war. He has directly contributed to how this country has evolved a s a society, as has hundreds of thousands of other poles.
So fk off.

Assuming that we aren't a stateless group then the indigenous community reserves the right to determine its own policy in its own country which includes deciding where to draw the line in how much immigration we take in.Assuming the immigrant communities don't want to respect that then maybe they are the ones who should fk off just as the Poles and the Ukrainians would say if ethnic Russians tried to determine Polish and Ukrainian national policy.

So you'd agree to the proposition of restricting the vote to indigenous peoples only?

Wrong question.The question is how do ethnic immigrant minorities get the right to determine our national immigration policy.


However assuming that we're not going to restrict immigration levels to the point where it is impossible for the immigrant communities to form electoral majorities then the question is obviously irrelevant.Assuming that is the case then it seems obvious where this is all heading.IE we become an ethnic minority in our own country governed by foreign immigrant groups in the interests of those foreign ethnic groups not ours.In which case as I've said we're eventually heading for an even worse situation than Tito's Yugoslavia.IE national suicide on the basis of handing the country over to majority immigrant interests in which we become the ethnic minority governed by them.

It was the right question and you've chosen not to answer it, instead you've rather obfuscated the point and prattled on about Yugoslavia.

Shall we try again? Would you say that someone who is not indigenous or of none indigenous parentage should be refused access to parliament, government position or any influence in deciding law/policy.

[mrpurple]

King said:

mrpurple said:

And if you knew your history you will know there are different opinions of what he did and why he did it, even that he did or try to do it at all.

Funny you failed to take into account that diversity of opinion from the start but plumped for the one largely discredited explanation to use against me. Is this your normal pattern - do something wrong, pretend you didn't and then attempt to hide it with a load of diversionary bluster?

You're behaving just like that kid who got thrown off 'The Apprentice' last night.

Edited to say I've just seen your additional information. Seriously, it's just another layer of diversionary bullst you're laying down to cover up you being unnecessarily rude to me. Are you unable to understand your own actions?

Edited by King on Thursday 27th November 13:44

My original comment "Shame he can't spell...." was aimed at your pseudonym and how you, deliberately, chose to spell it (to have an effect)... It is entirely up to you if you choose to interpret it in any other way and continue this faux charade of being a victim of my unnecessary rudeness towards you because you are not a kipper.

Except to say, having such thin skin it is probably a good job for you that you are not a kipper, this will be my last word on the matter as I am sure others are getting as bored with this as I am.

[WinstonWolf]

King said:

mrpurple said:

King said:

mrpurple said:

King said:

mrpurple said:

How have I insulted you? Commenting on how you deliberately choose spell your pseudonym? If that insults you then all I can say is it is probably just as well you are not a kipper.

I deliberately choose to spell my pseudonym in the correct fashion: It's the anglo-saxon form of King Canute. C-n-u-t is the accepted spelling these days. The automatic censor conflates c-n-u-t with c-u-n-t because it's a dumb machine. Assuming you're not a dumb machine, what's your excuse?

Either you don't know your history - which doesn't sit well for someone who paints himself as a patriotic UKIP supporter - or you don't know how to spell a basic four letter word.

Are you a typical UKIP supporter?

Good luck with your intelligent debates.

It's nice to meet a man who admits that he's incapable of intelligent debate. It's good to know your limits.

King Canute the Great...... good luck with trying to stop the UKIP tide oh mighty one.

Very good.
If you knew a bit of history, you'd know that C-n-u-t was trying to prove to his courtiers that he wasn't all powerful and he couldn't turn the tide back. You've actually missed a perfect opportunity to score points off me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSfwcI8wsMY

So why not call yourself KingCanute?

It's like listening to a seven year old when they're rumbled...

[CamMoreRon]

I don't understand the problem.. what's wrong with King Cnut?

This is like people giving me a hard time over my user name, not realising my name was Cameron. But more to the point.. who the fk actually cares? It's just a user name.

[WinstonWolf]

People immediately think you're a moron before you say anything. Your choice...

[Einion Yrth]

WinstonWolf said:

People immediately think you're a moron before you say anything. Your choice...

And also immediately afterwards, not his choice.

[BGARK]

CamMoreRon said:

"Not being a nationalistic xenophobe".

Are you referring the people from third world countries who refuse to integrate, if so I agree with you.

[King Cnut]

mrpurple said:

My original comment "Shame he can't spell...." was aimed at your pseudonym and how you, deliberately, chose to spell it (to have an effect)... It is entirely up to you if you choose to interpret it in any other way and continue this faux charade of being a victim of my unnecessary rudeness towards you because you are not a kipper.

Except to say, having such thin skin it is probably a good job for you that you are not a kipper, this will be my last word on the matter as I am sure others are getting as bored with this as I am.

It wasn't your "original comment" that I complained about, I ignored your "original comment". It was when you repeated the same crack that I responded. If you were only trying to point out a miss-spelling, I got it the first time. So why did you need to repeat it?
It was nothing to do with criticising my spelling, you took a cheap shot because you disagreed with something I said and rather than engage intelligently you went for the easy insult. Now you're trying to deny it.

You went out of your way to bully me (twice), got called out and then tried to cover your tracks with a load of bullst and bluster. You even admitted that you aren't capable of intelligent argument FFS. Now your bored. I can see why, making yourself look foolish in public probably is boring.

You insulted me without provocation - so you can hardly complain if I carry on pointing out your inadequacies. It'll be interesting to see if the above really was your last word, as promised. I don't think you're capable of leaving it alone.

[Einion Yrth]

King said:

I don't think you're capable of leaving it alone.

Some of us would be grateful if at least one of you would; be the bigger man and all that.

[don4l]

King said:

You went out of your way to bully me (twice),

That genuinely made me laugh.

[CamMoreRon]

BGARK said:

CamMoreRon said:

"Not being a nationalistic xenophobe".

Are you referring the people from third world countries who refuse to integrate, if so I agree with you.

If people are genuinely refusing to integrate then they're just as bad as people who refuse to let them integrate. It can definitely go both ways!