Why the UKIP will never work....

[King Cnut]

BGARK said:

King said:

You can't predict or control what culture is going to do, even if you closed the borders tomorrow. Controlling population doesn't control culture. As culture changes someone will always gets left behind and become unhappy.

You can always pick the good bits though, with no control you have no choice. Who is anyone to force me to like something?

"Culture" is just a nonsensical word for stuff we don't really need. Just like religion and art.

Nobody can force you to like something, but that's the point. Culture doesn't come through the front door and it doesn't respect borders.

There's barely a single aspect of your life that isn't somehow influenced by art or religion.

[Einion Yrth]

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[Mr GrimNasty]

Listening to DC's contradictory, hypocritical, evasive, two-faced, vacuous, 'yer I understand, I'm pretending to deal with it', 'it's all very complicated' (no it isn't), 'but you are all racists anyway' speech;- I think UKIP just got another 2 million votes.

The promise of eternal economic growth is a pyramid scam, mass immigration props up that scam for a few more years.

Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Friday 28th November 14:06

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Einion Yrth said:

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Sorry...with them sharing so many views I didn't realise....

[Einion Yrth]

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Einion Yrth said:

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Sorry...with them sharing so many views I didn't realise....

Très drôle.

[XJ Flyer]

King said:

XJ Flyer said:

Or to put it another way historic precedent shows that outside foreign influence has had a detrimental destabilising influence on the country.So instead of learning from that by reducing those outside pressures and influences you're saying lets apply even more and greater outside pressures on the indigenous culture and society.In which case the issues of British Jihadists caused by Muslim societal alienation as opposed to the historic internal religious tensions between Catholic and Protestant seems to be the result.Great idea.

You can't go back to a perfect ground zero when culture wasn't influenced from outside.

The point being that socialist confusion which thinks that the definition of the word 'culture',in the case of immigration policy, is something different from the definition of the word 'society'.In which case as I've said multi cultural 'also' means multi societal.Which then just leaves the question of how big and influential do we allow those foreign immigrant cultures/societies to grow.Not lets let in as many as who wish to come here and then integrate them into the indigenous culture/society.That is the issue which the pro immigration socialist/cheap labour alliance needs to get its head around.

The logical conclusion of which,as I've shown previously,is the correct policy which the US government decided to impose in regards to the immigration issue with the Johnson-Reed Immigration Act of 1924 which recognised and understood all of those issues.

Unlike the present failed PC pro immigration agenda which just keeps adding more and more to the numbers based on the flawed ideology that it is all about 'integration'.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 28th November 15:10

[CamMoreRon]

XJ Flyer said:

Rant..

Y'know.. every time you use the word "socialist", Tony Blair gets another lifetime achievement award.

[XJ Flyer]

CamMoreRon said:

XJ Flyer said:

Rant..

Y'know.. every time you use the word "socialist", Tony Blair gets another lifetime achievement award.

No I think he was on the cheap labour Con side of the pro immigration agenda in which case at least he had an excuse,for 'not wanting' to understand the contradiction,between 'Multi Cultural' and 'Mono Societal'.Unlike the socialists who just haven't got the intelligence 'to' understand it.

[JustAnotherLogin]

BGARK said:

King said:

Pardon?

Don't be pedantic, we can all hark on about where people have moved over 1000's of years, you know what I mean.

The indigenous population of any country is still always made up primarily if one group that's been there for a very long time.

I certainly didn't understand before this explanation.

The UK culture has been more open than most, far more so than for example China, personally I believe our life is all; the richer for it. Partly this has been because of the empire, but also to waves of immigration from various (often persecuted) peoples - including for example Huguenots and Jews at various times. Both of those helped lay the foundations for the empire so it can be self-reinforcing

I would also suggest that Australia and USA are two examples of countries which proves your second sentence untrue.

[CamMoreRon]

XJ Flyer said:

CamMoreRon said:

XJ Flyer said:

Rant..

Y'know.. every time you use the word "socialist", Tony Blair gets another lifetime achievement award.

No I think he was on the cheap labour Con side of the pro immigration agenda in which case at least he had an excuse,for 'not wanting' to understand the contradiction,between 'Multi Cultural' and 'Mono Societal'.Unlike the socialists who just haven't got the intelligence 'to' understand it.

Who are these socialists you're referring to? You seem to be very angry about them..

[XJ Flyer]

CamMoreRon said:

XJ Flyer said:

CamMoreRon said:

XJ Flyer said:

Rant..

Y'know.. every time you use the word "socialist", Tony Blair gets another lifetime achievement award.

No I think he was on the cheap labour Con side of the pro immigration agenda in which case at least he had an excuse,for 'not wanting' to understand the contradiction,between 'Multi Cultural' and 'Mono Societal'.Unlike the socialists who just haven't got the intelligence 'to' understand it.

Who are these socialists you're referring to? .

The idea of the world living as one without borders or nation states and anyone who believes in an ethnic integrationist agenda with an immigration policy to match is usually a good sign.I should know because I was one for a ( very ) short time before reality and intelligence kicked in.

[King Cnut]

XJ Flyer said:

The point being that socialist confusion which thinks that the definition of the word 'culture',in the case of immigration policy, is something different from the definition of the word 'society'.In which case as I've said multi cultural 'also' means multi societal.Which then just leaves the question of how big and influential do we allow those foreign immigrant cultures/societies to grow.Not lets let in as many as who wish to come here and then integrate them into the indigenous culture/society.That is the issue which the pro immigration socialist/cheap labour alliance needs to get its head around.

The logical conclusion of which,as I've shown previously,is the correct policy which the US government decided to impose in regards to the immigration issue with the Johnson-Reed Immigration Act of 1924 which recognised and understood all of those issues.

Unlike the present failed PC pro immigration agenda which just keeps adding more and more to the numbers based on the flawed ideology that it is all about 'integration'.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 28th November 15:10

Please explain why one hundred years ago - when there were very few black people in the UK - there was so much demand for 'minstrel music' that white people used to 'black up'.

[XJ Flyer]

King said:

XJ Flyer said:

The point being that socialist confusion which thinks that the definition of the word 'culture',in the case of immigration policy, is something different from the definition of the word 'society'.In which case as I've said multi cultural 'also' means multi societal.Which then just leaves the question of how big and influential do we allow those foreign immigrant cultures/societies to grow.Not lets let in as many as who wish to come here and then integrate them into the indigenous culture/society.That is the issue which the pro immigration socialist/cheap labour alliance needs to get its head around.

The logical conclusion of which,as I've shown previously,is the correct policy which the US government decided to impose in regards to the immigration issue with the Johnson-Reed Immigration Act of 1924 which recognised and understood all of those issues.

Unlike the present failed PC pro immigration agenda which just keeps adding more and more to the numbers based on the flawed ideology that it is all about 'integration'.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 28th November 15:10

Please explain why one hundred years ago - when there were very few black people in the UK - there was so much demand for 'minstrel music' that white people used to 'black up'.

Probably for the same reason that I like Motown music.That doesn't mean that I don't/shouldn't believe in a policy of strictly controlled immigration numbers and a non integrationist policy in the case of those who are here.

[steveT350C]

King said:

XJ Flyer said:

The point being that socialist confusion which thinks that the definition of the word 'culture',in the case of immigration policy, is something different from the definition of the word 'society'.In which case as I've said multi cultural 'also' means multi societal.Which then just leaves the question of how big and influential do we allow those foreign immigrant cultures/societies to grow.Not lets let in as many as who wish to come here and then integrate them into the indigenous culture/society.That is the issue which the pro immigration socialist/cheap labour alliance needs to get its head around.

The logical conclusion of which,as I've shown previously,is the correct policy which the US government decided to impose in regards to the immigration issue with the Johnson-Reed Immigration Act of 1924 which recognised and understood all of those issues.

Unlike the present failed PC pro immigration agenda which just keeps adding more and more to the numbers based on the flawed ideology that it is all about 'integration'.

Edited by XJ Flyer on Friday 28th November 15:10

Please explain why one hundred years ago - when there were very few black people in the UK - there was so much demand for 'minstrel music' that white people used to 'black up'.

black

this should keep you amused http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2850927/...

Edited by steveT350C on Friday 28th November 16:02

[twoblacklines]

Question:

How are they going to keep illegal immigrants out of the UK if they cannot even keep drugs out of the UK (considering we are one big island)...

[don4l]

twoblacklines said:

Question:

How are they going to keep illegal immigrants out of the UK if they cannot even keep drugs out of the UK (considering we are one big island)...

They'll probably carry on as at present unless someone comes up with a better way.

[Einion Yrth]

twoblacklines said:

Question:

How are they going to keep illegal immigrants out of the UK if they cannot even keep drugs out of the UK (considering we are one big island)...

Much harder to stuff a condom full of illegal immigrants up your arse than a kilo of heroin.

[CamMoreRon]

XJ Flyer said:

CamMoreRon said:

Who are these socialists you're referring to? .

The idea of the world living as one without borders or nation states and anyone who believes in an ethnic integrationist agenda with an immigration policy to match is usually a good sign.I should know because I was one for a ( very ) short time before reality and intelligence kicked in.

So basically, intelligence tells you that everyone should be segregated, culturally and perhaps physically?

You know we are all one species living on a thinly crusted ball of molten rock, hurtling through a near-perfect and infinite vacuum with as good as zero control and other places to go.. right? So why is the idea of trying to shape society so that all cultures / traditions / beliefs are able to live amongst each other without major conflict such a bad one?

You're also confused about what socialism is.

Socialism said:

Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.

[FiF]

BGARK said:

CamMoreRon said:

Your use of the word "indigenous" reeks of nationalism. Trace back through your family tree and see where you came from: are you an indigenous Brit, or were your ancestors French, German, or Scandinavian?

I think some of you are just not right in the head, when it was 10,000's people arriving into the UK (like our forefathers) it was manageable.

As it has increased to 100,000's (very quickly!) it is not manageable or sensible any longer, nothing to do with the "people", there are just too many of whoever they are!

Is this too complicated for you to understand?

Worth putting into thet discussion that the net 260000 immigration consists of 583000 arrivals and 323000 leavers, that were counted. If counted is the right word in that context.

[King Cnut]

steveT350C said:

black

this should keep you amused http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2850927/...

Edited by steveT350C on Friday 28th November 16:02

Do you disapprove of people sunbathing as well?