How can a school be criticised for being too English?

[IroningMan]

davepoth said:

turbobloke said:

My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.

Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

Not a great deal of globalisation of work life in rural England. Barring one family - US service personnel - the only non-whites my children encountered before they left primary school were the ones who took part in the school's exchange programme with a school in West Africa. Multiculturalism is not alive or well outside towns and cities.

Plenty of Eastern Europeans, mind you.

[Hugo a Gogo]

davepoth said:

turbobloke said:

My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.

Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

and you may end up believing all the ste about the islamic hordes sweeping across europe to eat your babies or the illegal immigrants stealing your jobs/lazing around on benefits

[Eric Mc]

arp1 said:

Try doing British things and you may feel different

What do you mean?

Are you implying that "feeling British" is the same as "feeling English".

If you are, you are therefore imnplying that the only way an Irish, Scottish or Welsh person can "feel British" is to abandon any of their Celtic proclivities.

[arp1]

I was jesting, as previously I asked why are the terms english and British beig used interchangeably.

[mph1977]

davepoth said:

turbobloke said:

My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.

Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

exactly , and while Lincolnshire isn;t the the most ethnically diverse place and mainy parts are 'horrifically white' especially away from Lincoln / Boston / Grantham / Shope and Grimsby, there are various people in the community from all over the world , whether that's imported Health Professionals working in the GP surgeries / hospitals and care homes or local restauranters / entrepreneurs who bring their home cuisine to that community or 'just' the Portugese and Accession Nations nationals who work in agriculture / food processing / logistics,

I grew up in Lincolnshire in the 80s and 90s , not far from Lincoln, none -white faces were very much the exception , in a secondary school of 1000+ pupils there were a handful of none white faces and as a rule they were the kids of restauranters or Doctors / scientists etc), and among the white faces only a handful of none British families ( even then these were 2, 3, or 4th generation immigrants - the occasional Italian or Polish surname) as this was pre-accession / expansion of the EU. when the US contractors were at Waddington dsuring the build up and introduction to service oftheSentry there were probably more US American families in the school than none whites)

[Eric Mc]

The phrase is "non", not "none".

i.e non-whites etc

[oyster]

IroningMan said:

davepoth said:

turbobloke said:

My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.

Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

Not a great deal of globalisation of work life in rural England. Barring one family - US service personnel - the only non-whites my children encountered before they left primary school were the ones who took part in the school's exchange programme with a school in West Africa. Multiculturalism is not alive or well outside towns and cities.

Plenty of Eastern Europeans, mind you.

So children who grow up in localised rural communities should stay there for their adult working lives? That's what you're suggesting.

I'd say kids in these areas are going to suffer in a career perspective versus kids who are already grounded in global cultures.

[mph1977]

oyster said:

IroningMan said:

davepoth said:

turbobloke said:

My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.

Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

Not a great deal of globalisation of work life in rural England. Barring one family - US service personnel - the only non-whites my children encountered before they left primary school were the ones who took part in the school's exchange programme with a school in West Africa. Multiculturalism is not alive or well outside towns and cities.

Plenty of Eastern Europeans, mind you.

So children who grow up in localised rural communities should stay there for their adult working lives? That's what you're suggesting.

I'd say kids in these areas are going to suffer in a career perspective versus kids who are already grounded in global cultures.

i think this is the point that is being raised by Ofsted looking for activities related to diversity even if the school is in a 'horrifically white' area ... I doubt there is anywhere that has absolutely no one that isn't white, british, CofE ....

[goldblum]

davepoth said:

Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

Completely wrong. If you are a sane, balanced individual societal and parental influence should prepare you amply. Why on Earth would anyone think a person from another ethnic group is an alien?

[IroningMan]

oyster said:

So children who grow up in localised rural communities should stay there for their adult working lives? That's what you're suggesting.

I'd say kids in these areas are going to suffer in a career perspective versus kids who are already grounded in global cultures.

No. I'm saying that not every workplace is globalised - the vast majority of workplaces outside major conurbations are anything but.

I'm not sure that not being taken on a tour of a mosque is going to limit anyone's career opportunities?

[mph1977]

IroningMan said:

No. I'm saying that not every workplace is globalised - the vast majority of workplaces outside major conurbations are anything but.

the vast majority of healthcare workplaces are 'globalised'

and why do you think UKIP doid so well in Boston Borough council if rural Lincolnshire isn't 'globalised' ...