Terror threat at an all time high
Discussion
Esseesse said:
TTwiggy said:
Nothing to do with the British and French politicians who drew lines all over the Middle East map after WWI and said 'you have this bit, we'll have that bit and sod the bit we promised to the Arabs.' then?
Without doubt Western influence in the Middle East has had at least a destabilising effect much of the time, in both more recent times and when they drew lines on a map.MrBrightSi said:
Im so glad other people see through the mist of this.
How much freedom should we give up for a threat that is hardly material, there are no constant attacks from extremists, yet we must allow people into our lives and metadata.
If you've got nothing to hide and all that.
Someone on the mail website put:
"ID RATHER LIVE IN A POLICE STATE THAN AN ISLAMIC STATE"
So hurrah for UK ignorance, the people truly are f
ked now we're that stupid.
If there's one thing that makes me feel secure, it's actually having a look at the security status of certain parts of UK infrastructure. It's so wide open, the only possible explanation is that nobody truly competent and imaginative is really trying.How much freedom should we give up for a threat that is hardly material, there are no constant attacks from extremists, yet we must allow people into our lives and metadata.
If you've got nothing to hide and all that.
Someone on the mail website put:
"ID RATHER LIVE IN A POLICE STATE THAN AN ISLAMIC STATE"
So hurrah for UK ignorance, the people truly are f
ked now we're that stupid.Four Litre said:
Im getting bored of all the BS we hear on an almost daily basis.
Who the fk is a "Terrorist!"
As soon as we (the UK) start saying, the threat from Islam is at the greatest it has ever been, the sooner we can sort it out.
What is this 'BS' we are hearing on an (almost!) daily basis then?Who the f
k is a "Terrorist!"As soon as we (the UK) start saying, the threat from Islam is at the greatest it has ever been, the sooner we can sort it out.
Esseesse said:
If there is an all time high terror thread from "the Islamist faction" (and I'm not suggesting that I feel terrorised) then the blame lies squarely at the doors of 95% of the last 65 years of politicians who have supported excessive immigration of people whose cultures and values are at odds to British culture and values. By allowing this to happen they have failed at a significant part of their job which is to be proactive in protecting the British public against future threats. I believe there were some politicians many decades ago who warned against this, but were generally derided and ignored.
Well said that man!!!!!Proof is now showing of how correct those earlier politicians were.
The latest BS of "immigration is good for the country", oh really? Good for wrecking my once upon a time home.Anyone got young children? Ever wondered what dstate the country will be in in another ten years time?
Yes, every immigrant to this country is a terrorist. The country is already completely wrecked, but due to their carefully honed immigrationy evilness they have found ways of making it even more wrecked. The bds. All is lost.
The only solution is for those clear thinking indigenous individuals to abandon these shores for another country. Off you pop.
ds. All is lost.The only solution is for those clear thinking indigenous individuals to abandon these shores for another country. Off you pop.
paranoid airbag said:
If there's one thing that makes me feel secure, it's actually having a look at the security status of certain parts of UK infrastructure. It's so wide open, the only possible explanation is that nobody truly competent and imaginative is really trying.
Well said paranoid airbag, I've been thinking the same thing for ages. There are so many ways for activists/terrorists/freedomists to cause mayhem without recourse to technical terrorism (i.e. gaining entry to places / producing IEDs) but the attacks don't seem to happen.This could be because:
1. They are really incompetent
2. A myth
3. The security services are exceptionally effective
4. They don't watch enough telly or read the right books
100SRV
How is this anywhere near comparable to the IRA?
The IRA were better trained, more organised and a hell of a lot more effective than any Muslim terrorists in the UK.
Bomb scares every other week, actual bombs far too frequently.
Yes there has been, what, one? effective Muslim terror attack, and that was 10 years ago. Fine , keep being vigilant, but this is nothing compared to the IRA threat.
The IRA were better trained, more organised and a hell of a lot more effective than any Muslim terrorists in the UK.
Bomb scares every other week, actual bombs far too frequently.
Yes there has been, what, one? effective Muslim terror attack, and that was 10 years ago. Fine , keep being vigilant, but this is nothing compared to the IRA threat.
RobDickinson said:
Yes there has been, what, one? effective Muslim terror attack, and that was 10 years ago. Fine , keep being vigilant, but this is nothing compared to the IRA threat.
2005 London bombings, 2007 London car bombs, 2007 Glasgow Airport, 2008 Exeter bombing, 2013 Woolwich. Those are the ones that happened.FourWheelDrift said:
2005 London bombings, 2007 London car bombs, 2007 Glasgow Airport, 2008 Exeter bombing, 2013 Woolwich. Those are the ones that happened.
2005 was very serious yes, I was in London not long after, travelling on the tube, Oxford street was empty.2007 - 2 failed car bombs and if every terrorist was as incompetent as the Glasgow 2 the world would be a safe place.
2008, again failed bombing
Woolwich was nasty but worse has happened with no connection to religion many times. Would barely get a mention in the annals of the IRA.
Not saying there is not a threat or whatever, just to say it is an all time high is a ridiculous statement meant to scare people timid. Nothing more.
DeanR32 said:
Anyone know how the general public were with the Irish during the Ira days? Was the British public any more or less against the Irish than they are with this modern day Muslim terrorism threat?
There was very little anti-Irish sentiment during the heyday of IRA attacks on the mainland, the vast majority of people just shrugged their shoulders and got on with their lives, not like the govermnent induced hysteria we have now. The general feeling was that the IRA were more interested in attacking 'the establishment' even though there were many attacks on purely civilian targets, the Birmingham pub bombings spring to mind.Different times.
Einion Yrth said:
Just an excuse to snoop. If you wanted to commit terrorist acts you'd use dead letter drops not email FFS.
Exactly , spying on people using tech and the net is less labour intensive, if terrorists used cold war techniques we'd be fked as we just don't have the staffing levels.RobDickinson said:
FourWheelDrift said:
2005 London bombings, 2007 London car bombs, 2007 Glasgow Airport, 2008 Exeter bombing, 2013 Woolwich. Those are the ones that happened.
2005 was very serious yes, I was in London not long after, travelling on the tube, Oxford street was empty.2007 - 2 failed car bombs and if every terrorist was as incompetent as the Glasgow 2 the world would be a safe place.
2008, again failed bombing
Woolwich was nasty but worse has happened with no connection to religion many times. Would barely get a mention in the annals of the IRA.
Not saying there is not a threat or whatever, just to say it is an all time high is a ridiculous statement meant to scare people timid. Nothing more.
ds get what they want".There is a massive problem with some (and they are mostly younger) Islamic people in this country but we cannot blame all of Islam for where we are right now ... in the same way that the vast majority of Irish Catholics in this country in the 70s were not pro the IRA bombing campaign (even those supportive of a united Ireland). The best way of not letting them win is carrying on with our lives as normal - that'll really p
s off the nutters. Yes we need to stamp on the extremists but that doesn't mean we should demonise anyone Islamic.Our politicians and spooks shouting about all time high threats is just feeding the egos of the idiots - it does nothing for our safety.
smegmore said:
There was very little anti-Irish sentiment during the heyday of IRA attacks on the mainland, the vast majority of people just shrugged their shoulders and got on with their lives, not like the govermnent induced hysteria we have now. The general feeling was that the IRA were more interested in attacking 'the establishment' even though there were many attacks on purely civilian targets, the Birmingham pub bombings spring to mind.
Different times.
Thanks for the reply Smegmore. Different times.
I remember an IRA bomb going off over near canary wharf. I was very close by watching basketball. That was a fair size bomb IIRC. I don't remember any of the hysteria and hatred towards the Irish, like we see these days with the Muslim extremist threat we have now.
Mark-C said:
Our politicians and spooks shouting about all time high threats is just feeding the egos of the idiots - it does nothing for our safety.
Summed up in a sentence.Plus...
What all politicians want is more power over the masses, one of the easiest ways to do this is by installing fear in their minds i.e. "we will keep you safe from the baddies BUT there will be costs, we will spy on you" is the current mantra.
Load of b
ks.The security services have managed to intervene and stop 40 planned attacks since 7/7, according to reports in the papers tonight.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/schools-and-...
However,
According to Dick down the pub, the public haven't noticed any change, as no sirens have gone off and no bombs hVe exploded.
Maybe they ARE both right???
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/schools-and-...
However,
According to Dick down the pub, the public haven't noticed any change, as no sirens have gone off and no bombs hVe exploded.
Maybe they ARE both right???
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