No charges for Missouri cop who shot unarmed teenager
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Foppo said:
What I find more weirder that when the cop was intervieuwed on the television.He had no sympathy or feeling of quilt for the lads family.
Looking at his expression on his face I shot a black so what?
Why should he? He was doing his job. He didnt shot Brown by mistake or by mistaking identiy. Brown was attacking him. Looking at his expression on his face I shot a black so what?
If anything Browns family should be showing sympathy or feeling of guilt for the police office.
unrepentant said:
You all missed the point.
Really? You didn't answer the question. If you punched a cop in the head that was 70lb lighter than you and tried to take their gun do you honestly think you would not get shot because you're white? You would almost certainly be shot and you know it. The casual link between the scenario and race is the thinking of thick people. People who want to make lazy conclusions without evidence to support the outcome they want. This is the mindset of the protesters. The piggy-backing of Carole Duggan, who wants to blame the armed criminal antics of her son on the police is of a similar vain.
This was a spontaneous incident the officer attended and dealt with. American policing is a very high-risk job (especially as the are so often single-crewed) and the public over there should be thankful there are people like this officer willing to do the job.
This was a spontaneous incident the officer attended and dealt with. American policing is a very high-risk job (especially as the are so often single-crewed) and the public over there should be thankful there are people like this officer willing to do the job.
anonymous said:
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Something for black Americans to ponder when they blame whitey on their woes.How come black African immigrants from places such as Nigeria ( who do not have the benefit of cultural assimilation and connections built over generations) ... Do dis proportionately well at attending top universities / and in business ... Relative to local US blacks ( and a lot of whites)?? Even though an immigrant will have a lot of inbuilt disadvantages.
Is it cos they work hard at school / college/ job ... And have self confidence -As opposed to carrying around a heavy chip on their shoulder?
anonymous said:
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Something for black Americans to ponder when they blame whitey on their woes.How come black African immigrants from places such as Nigeria ( who do not have the benefit of cultural assimilation and connections built over generations) ... Do dis proportionately well at attending top universities / and in business ... Relative to local US blacks ( and a lot of whites)?? Even though an immigrant will have a lot of inbuilt disadvantages.
Is it cos they work hard at school / college/ job ... And have self confidence -As opposed to carrying around a heavy chip on their shoulder?
unrepentant said:
You'd better believe that DWB is a very real thing in the USA and it's indicative of an institutional prejudice in police forces up and down this country.
The 'institutional prejudice' bit is frankly rather offensive and totally unfounded. There are racial bigots in law enforcement as much as there are in the clergy, or healthcare or car sales.The last time I did a ride-along with my local Sheriffs Office we pulled over a car that had totally blacked-out windows, so were unable to see how many occupants were in the car, let alone their ethnicity. There reason for the stop wasn't the black-outs, it was the expired tag and warrants attached to that tag. As we waited for back up to arrive (no engagement with occupants other than P.A. instructions to turn the motor off and sit tight) they started throwing stuff out of the passenger window (looked like litter - turned out to be weed - no big deal.)
When the back-up arrived and the driver was approached, he launched into a very foul-mouthed tirade about being pulled over because he was black. He was actually stopped because he was dumb-stupid enough to be driving around in a car with expired tags, on a revoked license with warrants for failure to appear and failure to pay fines/child support with felons for friends who had dope in his car.
He wasn't driving while black - he was driving (illegally) while stupid - that is the main reason people of all ethnicities get pulled - common lack of brains.
unrepentant said:
Atmospheric said:
Muntu said:
unrepentant said:
Obviously it was a bit of a generalization Matt....
I have a number of black friends - smart, successful people and I know that if I spent a day or a week or a month in their skin I would feel differently about the police than I do as a white person.
I am black. I find the actions and behaviour of the Ferguson residents a fI have a number of black friends - smart, successful people and I know that if I spent a day or a week or a month in their skin I would feel differently about the police than I do as a white person.
king embarrassment. Perhaps if they worked harder in school, they wouldn't find themselves (1) Running at and attacking policemen and getting shot, or (2), Participating in riotsThe "working hard in school" remarks are just contemptible and uninformed and actually just the sort of comments that the usual racist suspects trot out. I have black friends who work hard, have good jobs and a middle class lifestyle who still get "attention" from the cops. You'd better believe that DWB is a very real thing in the USA and it's indicative of an institutional prejudice in police forces up and down this country. Even right wing politician like Rand Paul accept that the police use discrimination when disproportionately targeting African Americans. It's not a matter of conjecture, it's fact.
A black man living in Kent is not going to have anything close to the experiences with the police of a black man living in Ferguson or South side Chicago or Watts has or a Hispanic man who happens upon race baiters like Sheriff Arpaio in Arizona.
whoami said:
KareemK said:
More like it:
Do you think that the examples you gave are commonly seen on the streets?The only people in the UK with similar resources are the armed forces. My point stands.
This is a "giggle" but very interesting:
http://www.newsweek.com/how-americas-police-became...
"And police in Bloomington, Georgia, (population: 2,713) acquired four grenade launchers through the program, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported."
Grenade Launchers FFS
http://www.newsweek.com/how-americas-police-became...
"And police in Bloomington, Georgia, (population: 2,713) acquired four grenade launchers through the program, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported."
Grenade Launchers FFS
KareemK said:
Who said anything about "commonly seen on the streets"? Available, deployable and indeed deployed, yes.
The only people in the UK with similar resources are the armed forces. My point stands.
Because "commonly seen on the streets" stands hand-in-hand with a: The only people in the UK with similar resources are the armed forces. My point stands.
KareemK said:
a grotesquely over-militarised police force
US officers are, nearly all of the time, deployed in uniform and carry equipment that is no more 'militarised' than European police forces. They have military-level contingencies because they may face weapons that present a serious risk. This is logical given the calibre of weapons people can legally own and criminals can get hold of.
This isn't them being "grotesquely over-militarised".
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