No charges for Missouri cop who shot unarmed teenager

[KareemK]

irocfan said:

Fish said:

And in the uk someone points a gun at police and doesn't get shot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2870530/Te...

Albeit an air rifle..

not sure that that makes us actually better than the sceptics or more foolish

Well nobody died - shall I do the math or you?

[unrepentant]

Fish said:

And in the uk someone points a gun at police and doesn't get shot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2870530/Te...

Albeit an air rifle..

Meanwhile a man who just happens to be black is gunned down by police in Walmart for aiming an air rifle that he picked up off the shelf in the store at nobody. He was shot dead within seconds of police arriving at the store.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/john-craw...

And in other news a man who happens to be white is not shot but was arrested Tuesday evening for discharging a weapon in city limits, weapon discharge violation, owning a weapon when forbidden, criminal mischief, aggravated assault and trespass of a dwelling after a 10-hour long standoff with police who waited patiently before coaxing him out with pepper spray rather than a hail of bullets. I guess he was just a "good old boy".

http://fox13now.com/2014/12/02/active-shooter-in-s...

[irocfan]

unrepentant said:

Fish said:

And in the uk someone points a gun at police and doesn't get shot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2870530/Te...

Albeit an air rifle..

Meanwhile a man who just happens to be black is gunned down by police in Walmart for aiming an air rifle that he picked up off the shelf in the store at nobody. He was shot dead within seconds of police arriving at the store.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/john-craw...

And in other news a man who happens to be white is not shot but was arrested Tuesday evening for discharging a weapon in city limits, weapon discharge violation, owning a weapon when forbidden, criminal mischief, aggravated assault and trespass of a dwelling after a 10-hour long standoff with police who waited patiently before coaxing him out with pepper spray rather than a hail of bullets. I guess he was just a "good old boy".

http://fox13now.com/2014/12/02/active-shooter-in-s...

they shot the wrong guy

[bitchstewie]

Evil white policemen.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871737/Wh...

[Corpulent Tosser]

bhstewie said:

Evil white policemen.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871737/Wh...

The evil bds, imagine doing that.

[irocfan]

Corpulent Tosser said:

bhstewie said:

Evil white policemen.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2871737/Wh...

The evil bds, imagine doing that.

I guess in some people's eyes this is actually a racist act since once again it fosters the image of the 'good' white over-seer looking out for the po' black person.

Then again I rather suspect that some of the contributors on here would be arguing that Raul Moat should not have been shot either

[Baryonyx]

Raoul Moat shot himself, but I see what you mean.

[unrepentant]

Compare the patience used by police in dealing with this agitated, clearly bonkers old white guy brandishing his rifle in public with the black guy in Walmart with the toy gun who was executed by police within seconds of them arriving. If this guy had been black he'd have been blown away.


http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014...http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014...

[King Cnut]

Baryonyx said:

Raoul Moat shot himself, but I see what you mean.

It only works if Moat was mixed race...

[dudleybloke]

This weeks South Park cover the topic quite well.

[anonymous-user]

unrepentant said:

Compare the patience used by police in dealing with this agitated, clearly bonkers old white guy brandishing his rifle in public with the black guy in Walmart with the toy gun who was executed by police within seconds of them arriving. If this guy had been black he'd have been blown away.

All the variables of different police officers, different states, the different situations etc and you're seriously saying you can draw that conclusion?

[unrepentant]

La Liga said:

unrepentant said:

Compare the patience used by police in dealing with this agitated, clearly bonkers old white guy brandishing his rifle in public with the black guy in Walmart with the toy gun who was executed by police within seconds of them arriving. If this guy had been black he'd have been blown away.

All the variables of different police officers, different states, the different situations etc and you're seriously saying you can draw that conclusion?

Yeah. There's plenty of other examples, I posted one yesterday. You get a black guiy waving a gun about in public he's going to be taken down in a hurry.

[anonymous-user]

Within a sample of over 10 million arrests per year...

We have no idea how many of those non-fatal encounters (which accounts for nearly all of them) are situations where the police resolve a potentially lethal incident without using lethal force. We don't know the ethnic proportions in terms of lethal threats relative to the population size, the times officers shoot, he amount of time taken to shoot etc. How about the 'availability effect' where we naturally over-estimate the probability and frequency of an event the more we're exposed to the event or the circumstances i.e. the media are more keen to report white officer on black suspect shootings?

A few news articles do not a rational point make.

[Jimbeaux]

Trust me, this type thing goes on far more than cops shooting people.

[irocfan]

Jimbeaux said:

Trust me, this type thing goes on far more than cops shooting people.

doesn't grab headlines though

[Jimbeaux]

irocfan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Trust me, this type thing goes on far more than cops shooting people.

doesn't grab headlines though

Very true.

[paranoid airbag]

Corpulent Tosser said:

I am not saying there is no blame on the police, but the fact remains we are all responsible for our acts and omissions, and that includes the deceased in this case.

That's exactly what you're fking saying. If you weren't saying that, you would have said "the policeman should have done his job, which is to arrest people without killing someone unless necessary, and by not doing so he has committed negligent homicide". You didn't say that, so you clearly don't think the policeman is to blame.

[Corpulent Tosser]

paranoid airbag said:

That's exactly what you're fking saying. If you weren't saying that, you would have said "the policeman should have done his job, which is to arrest people without killing someone unless necessary, and by not doing so he has committed negligent homicide". You didn't say that, so you clearly don't think the policeman is to blame.

So fking kind of you to tell me what I am saying !

Is it really too taxing for your brain to consider the concept of shared responsibility ?

Root cause = The guy refusing to allow the cops to put cuffs on him, or you could take it back further to him not learning from being arrested for the same offense previously.

However the cop could/should have shown more restraint, though a court has exonerated him.

I do hope your brain cell has managed to take that in.

[irocfan]

paranoid airbag said:

Corpulent Tosser said:

I am not saying there is no blame on the police, but the fact remains we are all responsible for our acts and omissions, and that includes the deceased in this case.

That's exactly what you're fking saying. If you weren't saying that, you would have said "the policeman should have done his job, which is to arrest people without killing someone unless necessary, and by not doing so he has committed negligent homicide". You didn't say that, so you clearly don't think the policeman is to blame.

and by the same token you are absolving the victim of all responsibility which is also bks

[anonymous-user]

paranoid airbag said:

and by not doing so he has committed negligent homicide

But that's not the case, is it?