robbers-smash-into-home-with-battering-ram

[Esseesse]

paranoid airbag said:

Crush said:

OllieC said:

I suppose its the kind of thing that happens when the courts and sentencing are so weak.

Right, this would never happen somewhere like, say, the US.

You're right, the answer is reducing sentences for premeditated armed robbery. That'll stop them.

[Esseesse]

graphene said:

Esseesse said:

paranoid airbag said:

Crush said:

OllieC said:

I suppose its the kind of thing that happens when the courts and sentencing are so weak.

Right, this would never happen somewhere like, say, the US.

You're right, the answer is reducing sentences for premeditated armed robbery. That'll stop them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10375233/Nine-in-10-walk-free-for-first-violent-crime.html

From that article: Jeremy Wright, the justice minister, said: "People who commit serious violent and sexual offences deserve to feel the full force of the law – whether it is their first offence or not – and can face life in prison."

Is this part of the problem? All people that break the law deserve to feel the full force of the law (including those who take recreational drugs, but that's for another thread). Rather than not enforcing the law, if the law is not right then change it and be held accountable for that change.

[WCZ]

it's the homeowners fault for owning an expensive audi

isn't this what the police's attitude is? at least in the aberdeen cases

[cptsideways]

The threat of life in prison being possibly only 8 years is not enough, a life sentence for armed robbery should mean you will die in jail.

It cannot be that hard to track down these scrotes, they are bound to be known to the police in some form or another

[Matt Harper]

paranoid airbag said:

Right, this would never happen somewhere like, say, the US.

Somewhat less likely.....

[superkartracer]

What a delightful place to live... a shotgun ready by the door

What a bunch.

[Matt Harper]

superkartracer said:

What a delightful place to live... a shotgun ready by the door

What a bunch.

My counter to that would be - look at the original video - now that really is delightful. Being able to deter would-be nocturnal visitors by way of the very real chance that they could get their thieving heads blown-off, is better insurance than hand-wringing, as your door gets smashed-in and your home and possibly family are violated.

I don't regret not being forced to be a victim.

[Soov535]

Matt Harper said:

paranoid airbag said:

Right, this would never happen somewhere like, say, the US.

Somewhat less likely.....

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

[Matt Harper]

Soov535 said:

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

Indeed, I completely get that - I think it prudent to also point out that this is inside my walk-in closet - not by the front door - and that there are no children in my household. When there are, my firearms are secured appropriately, as they are when I'm not at home.

My point is that the deterrent does go some way to preventing this type of home invasion. Needless to say there are those who feel that the crims would be less likely to be armed if their potential victims weren't. That is nonsense of course - home invaders invariably have little sense of fair play.

[stuttgartmetal]

Get yourself some furry molegrips

[creampuff]

Soov535 said:

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

Then getting the ammo out of the other safe

[Digga]

stuttgartmetal said:

Get yourself some furry molegrips

I 'hear' the best plan is to have two sets - a noisy one and a stealthy one. One diverts attention, whilst the other lines up for attack, like Velociraptors.

[Sheepshanks]

Matt Harper said:

My counter to that would be - look at the original video - now that really is delightful.

How many people in the US have the gun taken off them and are then killed by their own gun?

And how many people are accidentally killed by a family members' gun?

[Esseesse]

creampuff said:

Soov535 said:

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

Then getting the ammo out of the other safe

I knew about the safe, but didn't know about a separate one for the ammo.

[LordHaveMurci]

Esseesse said:

creampuff said:

Soov535 said:

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

Then getting the ammo out of the other safe

I knew about the safe, but didn't know about a separate one for the ammo.

Not required for shotguns. Not that it matters, you still wouldn't get your 12 bore out quick enough anyway.

[Soov535]

Esseesse said:

creampuff said:

Soov535 said:

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

Then getting the ammo out of the other safe

I knew about the safe, but didn't know about a separate one for the ammo.

Not needed.

[Hoofy]

Digga said:

stuttgartmetal said:

Get yourself some furry molegrips

I 'hear' the best plan is to have two sets - a noisy one and a stealthy one. One diverts attention, whilst the other lines up for attack, like Velociraptors.

I'm a bit short of cash at the moment but I think I follow your idea.

[stuttgartmetal]

Hoofy said:

Digga said:

stuttgartmetal said:

Get yourself some furry molegrips

I 'hear' the best plan is to have two sets - a noisy one and a stealthy one. One diverts attention, whilst the other lines up for attack, like Velociraptors.

I'm a bit short of cash at the moment but I think I follow your idea.

Big LOL.


Staffies are great dogs.

[Lost soul]

Matt Harper said:

My point is that the deterrent does go some way to preventing this type of home invasion.

I believe home invasion carry's some pretty harsh penalty's in the US

[Soov535]

LordHaveMurci said:

Esseesse said:

creampuff said:

Soov535 said:

Very sensible.

Unfortunately in the UK you have to be quick at getting the shooter out of the safe

Then getting the ammo out of the other safe

I knew about the safe, but didn't know about a separate one for the ammo.

Not required for shotguns. Not that it matters, you still wouldn't get your 12 bore out quick enough anyway.

Trust me I would!!!